Posted on 01/24/2014 6:18:44 AM PST by EAGLE7
Eric Snowden stated he is not returning to the U.S. considering the current "whistleblowing" laws.
Smart man to stay out of the reach of our Stasi.
Is Eric Edward’s brother or something??
The NSA spies on “their” enemies not “our” enemies.
He would be insane to come back here. Even if the govt gave him amnesty he would get Breitbarted within a few mos.
I’m not one who thinks of Snowden as a hero but he’s certainly the lesser evil.
We'll probably never know the full extent of what our government has already done, planning to do and to what extent, but because of him, the American people have been alerted and some issues and situations are now common language to a lot of people.
NSA, IRS spying, etc.
Snowden or Obama...
Looks like you made your choice
I’d rather have dead Islamic Terrorists than being spied on
Snowden did good. The American intelligence apparatus that for decades was focused on external threats has turned 180 degrees and focused on he American people. Its beyond doubt that even this very thread is swept up and stored.
Add in the militarization of law enforcement, and the use of military intelligence to aid criminal prosecutions (NSA=DOD), the use of government agencies to harass and prosecute political opponents and you have a budding police state.
Support the NSA and its un-American, unconstitutional, activities if you want. I hope he has a happy life, with a beautiful woman. Thank god he made it somewhere to safety from his pursuers.
And we shouldn’t call the NSA the STASI. The real STASI never dreamed of having so much intel, they were pikers compared to the NSA.
He shouldn’t return until after serious, deep order change in the government of the USA. Until he sees people that ran this structure being arrested and prosecuted, he should stay safe and have some happiness.
How simple minded of you. I reject both of them. Both have caused and are causing untold damage. :Like I said, if Snowden simply revealed the domestic spying and information gathering program, I could understand and even support him. The traitor went sooo far beyond that.
Do not misunderstand me. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE NSA DOMESTIC SPYING PROGRAM. It scares me that they are mining data on all Americans. That should worry us all. If ALL Snowden did was reveal THAT program, I would have supported him. But he also revealed other nations we spy on, both friend and foe, and HOW we spy on them, causing damage on FOREIGN data gathering which is essential. Moreover, the damage and distrust it has caused in the minds of Americans fits nicely into the subversion and demoralization process the KGB started decades ago. While it’s healthy and ESSENTIAL to have a certain amount of distrust for our gov’t., it is not healthy to say...as I have read conservatives post...that Russia is a better place, and calling our own agencies the “stasi”.
He was a traitor only to the NSA, not to the constitution. And as for foreign policy, i’m glad he revealed the we listen to Merkel’s phone, that we have reciprocal agreements where foreign nations spy on our citizens while we spy on theirs, etc.
As I see it about 90% of our foreign policy is now conducted in secret, in direct opposition to what most Americans think is right. The Secret regime allows this. This current war has lasted 3 times longer than WWII and shows no sign of stopping.
We have been fighting so long we are now switching sides and fighting WITH Al Qeida in Syria, Libya, and Egypt.
This is all enabled by our massive secrecy regime. I think its way past time for some disinfecting sunshine.
If you dislike my use of the term Stasi, you’ll really dislike my description of the “service” you provide on them.
I’m reminded of a documentary about the rise of the 3rd Reich told from the German perspective. In the documentary was a letter from a German citizen who complained that “The Gestapo tells us of all these threats we face but treat us as if these threats were in our own homes”.
Because of Snowden, and only because of Snowden, is there now a real concern about government over-reach. The discussion just would not have happened if he didn't (hopefully) get a critical mass of people to care about our loss of freedoms.
Another thing is....whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty" and "due process"? How would Snowden ever get a fair trial in the US, with all the pronouncements of Snowden's guilt?
So we all live in an alternate universe where the man who cares about his country and religious values presides over Russia, and the man who has a disdain for both presides over the US. As far as the secrets being divulged goes?....I'm not buying it.
Besides, what good is intel without the will to do anything about it?
I give you the Boston bombers posting jihadi videos, I give you Major Hassan who NSA watched communicating with Al Qeida leaders before Fort Hood. I give you open borders and cartels. I give you wholesale importation of Moslems and Africans from the moslem wars there.
And who do the fusion centers designate as terrorist? Why TEA of course. Tea, constitution lovers, Christians, Ron Paul voters, gun owners, etc. The US Army is teaching soldiers that Christians are an example of extremist thought.
I SEE all of this, and I know that our revolutionary socialist government is NOT expending intel efforts to protect us. We are the targets. Go Snowden.
Very true ref the Gestapo. Its amazing that suddenly we are surrounded my dire threats everywhere, and that the main answer is the creation of the Nazi sounding Homeland Security agency. An agency that is the size of the USMC with TWICE the budget. They legally designate the “Homeland” a battlefield.
Meanwhile the exact entities who are the stated threats are allowed to flock into America wholesale, and are supplied with everything from AKs to Submarines and F-16s overseas.
But they watch normal Americans, Ron Paul, Christians and TEA.
I can add all that up very quickly.
“My fish’s name is Eric, Eric the fish. He’s an halibut..”
The only thing Snowden has done is cause considerable damage to the NSA’s agenda of spying on every American citizens every movement. So far their metadata collection has not thwarted even one terrorist plot. They are the TSA on steroids. They need to be significantly curtailed and soon.
Personally I’d like to shut the NSA down. What is the CIA supposed to be for?
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