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LINUX and WiFi

Posted on 01/21/2014 10:04:40 AM PST by varmintman

This is in the "If the subject should ever come up" category...

One of the biggest problems which comes up for people trying to get a look at one of the newer Linux distributions is what to do about WIFI. Particularly in the case of laptops and particularly in the case of laptops with Broadcom wifi radios, those radios act as if they'd gone dead. LINUX does not come with drivers for such (the drivers are Windows only and proprietary) ; information exists on websites for setting up wrappers to allow the Windows drivers to think they're running under Windows but 1. the instructions for loading and installing those drivers and wrapping code cannot be followed by normal people, 2. even were you to miraculously succeed at that there could easily be a performance penalty in the extra layer of software and, 3. since you're often talking about an older laptop in the first place, that radio is likely to be low-performance and constitute a bottleneck.

The good news is you can avoid the problem for ten or fifteen bucks. One of the little usb wifi devices which is a $10 - $15 item on ebay all day long, will simply make the problem vanish. None of the info on any of the linux websites will tell you that.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: computers; linux; wifi
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1 posted on 01/21/2014 10:04:40 AM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Um.... Which Linux distro were you having problems with?


2 posted on 01/21/2014 10:06:54 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: varmintman
That's how I always solve it.

I always go for the $5 one though.

150M Mini USB WiFi WLAN Wireless Network Adapter 802.11n/g/b For Win7/Mac/Linux

3 posted on 01/21/2014 10:07:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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4 posted on 01/21/2014 10:08:07 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Dead Corpse

Anything Ubuntu-based, Mint in this case. I’d guess any other distribution would have the same problem but I couldn’t vouch for it.


5 posted on 01/21/2014 10:10:39 AM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

I had zero problem getting my laptop online the minute I installed Ubuntu.

There are some WIFI routers that apparently don’t work with Linux though.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 10:10:52 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have one of those on a Raspberry Pi. Works a treat...


7 posted on 01/21/2014 10:10:56 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

You haz a pi!? Lucky.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 10:14:28 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: GeronL

How does a router know the packets came from a Linux box?


9 posted on 01/21/2014 10:15:09 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dead Corpse

I got a Pi for Christmas. It works, but I have no clue what do do with it. It isn’t fast enough to play video.


10 posted on 01/21/2014 10:17:45 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: varmintman

Ok... Debian based. Both Ubuntu and Mint are based on Debian.

I assume you’ve seen this: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/218

And this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-bcm43xx

And this: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/379

Just curious as I’ve never had that problem. Yeah, I’ve had to correctly configure the device via command line, but that’s about it. MAN pages and README’s include a lot of this info.

The idea of using a Windows driver in a wrapper for a networking device never would have crossed my mind.


11 posted on 01/21/2014 10:18:01 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

All I know is that one of the routers I had from Verizon worked on everything (Windows, IPhones, XBoxes) but not my Linux computer. It didn’t even seem to exist to the router.

SO I changed back to the old router that worked.


12 posted on 01/21/2014 10:20:47 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Bobalu

Ask Bobalu

He wrote about his experiences...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2898942/posts


13 posted on 01/21/2014 10:22:48 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: miliantnutcase
Using it as a project at work. Linking it to an IP camera. Set up Midori as a kiosk. Tada! Easy low cost security monitor.


14 posted on 01/21/2014 10:27:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Really? Might need to look into optimizing it for video playback.

This is what I got for Christmas...

Nerds will Rule the World!

15 posted on 01/21/2014 10:29:29 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: varmintman; ShadowAce
varmint -- it all depends on the chipset that the wireless device uses.

Linux no likee Broadcomm chips.

I've always had good luck with these funky Zyxel units

16 posted on 01/21/2014 10:33:12 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“I got a Pi for Christmas. It works, but I have no clue what do do with it. It isn’t fast enough to play video.”

Here’s one neat project using the RPi for web applications:

https://arkos.io/


17 posted on 01/21/2014 10:33:28 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Dead Corpse
I assume you’ve seen this: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/218

Nope, that's part of what I meant in saying that a normal person had little or no chance of succeeding at such a thing and, again, even were you to succeed at it, there're still two kinds of performance issues as I noted. One of he things I notice doing ebay searches on 'tenda usb' is that there's a wide range of performances in such devics, 130mbs - 300+ mbs and the price difference is negligable.

18 posted on 01/21/2014 10:49:52 AM PST by varmintman
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Ok...so I’m confused. How will plugging in a usb wifi device to your PC’s USB port allow your Linux distro access your wifi network any easier? What method do you use now? Are you using a desktop PC or a laptop. Please elucidate.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 10:55:56 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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Doesn’t it make sense that a natively-supported WiFi chip in the external device is going to streamline things?

I have used the wrapper method in the past, however, and it was no big deal.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 11:01:21 AM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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