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Goodell: NFL may consider scrapping PATs, adding excitement to TDs
Fox Sports ^ | 1/21/2014 | Sam Gardner

Posted on 01/21/2014 10:03:45 AM PST by nikos1121

Earlier this season, New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick told reporters that extra points in football were boring because they have become so automatic, and now it appears commissioner Roger Goodell might agree.

In fact, on Monday, Goodell appeared on NFL Network’s “Total Access,” and took things a step further than Belichick, indicating that the league’s competition committee could consider eliminating the PAT altogether.

“One of the things the committee does besides looking first at the safety issues … (is) looking to see, ‘Are there any plays in the game that, really, are not consequential?’” Goodell told host Rich Eisen. “And one of the issues that has happened is that the extra point is almost automatic.”

Goodell is right enough there. The NFL only saw five missed extra points this regular season — one each from Green Bay, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Philadelphia — in 1,267 tries. And the active kicker with the worst PAT conversion rate is Graham Gano, who has made 97.6 percent of his regular-season kicks since coming into the league four seasons ago.

But if football actually did do away with the extra point, then what would happen after a touchdown?

“You want to add excitement with every play,” Goodell said. “So there have been some proposals. Some are still going through the process of creativity, but there’s one proposal in particular that I’ve heard about (where) it’s automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball. But if you fail, you’d go back to six.”

It’s certainly an interesting idea that would force coaches to rethink the way they approach certain game situations, but before you start thinking about how such a rule might impact the 17th round of your fantasy draft next year, take a breath — because Goodell, in his interview, also made it clear that the proposal he discussed is just that.

“We often get a lot of ideas that are thrown out,” Goodell said. “The committee will look at all of them and decide what is worthy of further consideration.

“There’s some issues, and it goes back to … unintended consequences,” he continued. “You want to be careful there; is that going to discourage people from going for two? We want to make sure we look at some of that, and that’s what the committee does. They’ll make, obviously, some focus on this in the committee and see where they come out.”


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Give them 4 pts if they hit the goal posts...They would actually try and hit them!


81 posted on 01/21/2014 10:49:46 AM PST by OCMike
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To: discostu
I don’t like the automatic 7 thing though, if they want to adjust it either make it always a 2 point conversion...

I recall in my High School playing days, 2 point conversions were the norm. Very few teams had anyone who would kick PATs.

Our team was a powerhouse and we went undefeated and went to the High School Super Bowl that year.

We lost 7 to 6 to a team that had a PAT kicker and we failed to score our 2 point conversion. These days the ratio of PAT kicks vs. 2 point conversions in HS football is about the same as the NFL.

82 posted on 01/21/2014 10:50:09 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: nikos1121

How about FGs that are longer than 55 yards are worth 4 points?

I agree with dumping the PAT. I liked the idea of a 7pt TD with the possibility of 8 points if the team does a 2pt conversion-style play, but if it’s not successful, it drops back to 6 points. That could make things interesting.


83 posted on 01/21/2014 10:51:57 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: LowOiL

Although Alabama and Auburn players are paid, he was talking about the NFL.


84 posted on 01/21/2014 10:53:44 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: nikos1121

Make the PAT a drop kick.


85 posted on 01/21/2014 10:56:11 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Now there...Is a great idea!


86 posted on 01/21/2014 10:56:57 AM PST by crz
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

This would be fun. Get rid of the punt. 4th and 25? Too freaking bad. Shouldnt have played graba$$ with the linebacker.


87 posted on 01/21/2014 10:57:30 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: dfwgator
I think if you convert a two-point conversion, you should get the ball back.

There you go.

88 posted on 01/21/2014 10:59:50 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: nikos1121

I think linemen should be armed with clubs, shields and brass knuckles.


89 posted on 01/21/2014 11:02:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vigilanteman

The biggest change I would make is that the game cannot end with a victory formation. If the offense does not try to advance the ball, it is delay of game and no time is run off the clock.


90 posted on 01/21/2014 11:03:13 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Block rate on field goals is pretty low, and gets worse as it gets closer and the kicker can kick at a higher angle. “Encouraging” block attempts on the PAT probably wouldn’t even double the misses.


91 posted on 01/21/2014 11:05:22 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: nikos1121
Keep the PAT, but move it back to the 30 yard line. Then you turn on an electric motor that will cause the goal post uprights to move to and fro, back and forth, left and right. And the place kicker has to wear 10-inch platform shoes, a la Lady Gaga. Then there are trap doors built into the field at each 40-yard line, which conceals a pack of ravenous wolves that have been starved for two weeks. When the 40-second play clock starts, the trap door nearest to the point of the kick flies open, and the placekicker and holder will need to take the snap and execute the kick before the famished wild beasts bear down on them from 10 yards away. That way, your placekicker would have to be the most athletic guy on the team, because he's having to outrun the pack of hungry, snarling wolves wearing Lady GaGa's shoes. The holder would also have to be among the fastest guys on the team, since he's having to arise from a crouch into a full run in a fraction of a second.

Extreme? Perhaps. But it would remove any issue about the PAT being automatic. I defy Roger Goodell to come up with anything nearly that entertaining. ;-)
92 posted on 01/21/2014 11:06:29 AM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: nascarnation

I thoroughly reject what you claim. A person who inherits properties worth billions of dollars, which are increasing in price, a great billionaire.


93 posted on 01/21/2014 11:06:48 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

I didn’t say it was solely because of extra points. He’s making wholesale changes all around.


94 posted on 01/21/2014 11:07:27 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

he doesn’t own anything


95 posted on 01/21/2014 11:08:52 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: nikos1121

They could make the goal posts adjustable so that their width would narrow relative to the ball’s location to the goal line. The further from the goal line, the wider the goal opening. PAT should have to be tried with the posts narrowed to 15 inches.


96 posted on 01/21/2014 11:10:19 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: yawningotter

All that would do is change the victory formation into giving the ball to their 4th string running back with the instructions to run into the line and go down on first contact. When you have the ball and the points you’ve earned the right to call it a day, just like the second half of the 9th inning.


97 posted on 01/21/2014 11:12:46 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Bloody Sam Roberts said: "Our team was a powerhouse and we went undefeated ..."

One year my high school senior class got to see something they had never seen before; our team lost a football game. That's what happens when you have a future Heisman Trophy winner on your team and he goes off to college.

98 posted on 01/21/2014 11:15:10 AM PST by William Tell
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To: nikos1121

Move the ball back to the 20. Kick or go for 2. Any miss or block gets run back. If you make the 2 point you get the ball back on a free kick.


99 posted on 01/21/2014 11:16:08 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Future Snake Eater

So you don’t think football is interesting now?


100 posted on 01/21/2014 11:17:17 AM PST by nickcarraway
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