Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Lawyer: People should be ‘outraged’ (video - NMSP officer shoots, kills driver during traffic stop)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | January 17, 2014 | Andy Stiny

Posted on 01/17/2014 9:12:59 AM PST by CedarDave

Dash-cam video released Thursday shows a State Police officer running toward and alongside the car driven by Jeanette Anaya and firing multiple times into the Honda sedan as he screams expletives and for the occupants to get their hands up.

Anaya’s car did back into officer Oliver Wilson’s cruiser, apparently narrowly missing Wilson himself, but the video shows that the Honda was moving away from Wilson as most of his 16 shots were fired.

Anaya, 39, was hit and killed by two of Wilson’s shots, following a vehicle chase that started when Wilson tried to pull her over for a traffic stop after midnight on Nov. 7.

When the shooting took place, Wilson was outside his patrol car. He had used a bumping maneuver to force her car to stop on Camino Carlos Rey. All within just a few seconds, Wilson gets out of his car, Anaya backs into the cruiser, and Wilson starts shooting at Anaya’s Honda. A passenger in Anaya’s car, Jeremy Munoz, 34, was not injured.

Earlier this week, a Santa Fe County grand jury ruled that Wilson was justified in firing at Anaya and that he will face no criminal charges. Wilson testified he feared for his life when Anaya backed into his police car, according to District Attorney Angela “Spence” Pacheco.

But Tom Clark, attorney for Anaya’s parents, said Thursday that Anaya should have stopped during the car chase but that if Wilson wasn’t wearing a police uniform, he’d be facing a first-degree murder charge now.

Clark said he was “shocked and dismayed” after viewing the video.

“I had no idea it was going to be as bad as it was,” he said. “I didn’t think it would be so dramatic with the officer running alongside shooting point-blank into the car.”

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: crime; newmexico; police
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-170 next last
To: TalonDJ; cuban leaf

I’d kind of like to shoot every driver who drives badly. If I wear a blue shirt, do you think that will be enough? Or would I need a badge as well...

Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)

“Held: The Tennessee statute is unconstitutional insofar as it authorizes the use of deadly force against, as in this case, an apparently unarmed, nondangerous fleeing suspect; such force may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/471/1/

If the cop noted her license plate and they looked her up the next day, would she still have been a threat to the public?


141 posted on 01/17/2014 12:49:39 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: oldenuff2no

Agreed.


142 posted on 01/17/2014 12:49:54 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf

Ditto. Prayers to all involved!


143 posted on 01/17/2014 12:55:34 PM PST by WorksinKOP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver
"So she should be shot because she might hurt someone else?"

Trying to change the discussion and delete/ignore the facts again. After failing to acknowledge any and all verbal instructions, emergency siren and lights she attempted to leave the place where she had just committed a violent felony. She assaulted an on duty LEO with a deadly weapon. That LEO will use what ever amount of force necessary to stop her from escaping and harming others. That is his job.

144 posted on 01/17/2014 1:22:33 PM PST by oldenuff2no ("For which she should be charged with and face a jury. Not summarily executed.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: oldenuff2no

You said she represented a threat to all those people out at 2am in the morning.

I’m just repeating what you said. She should be shot because she MIGHT hurt someone in the future. That is a very low threshold.

Yes she “assaulted” the officer, probably didnt realize he was there, but she did apparently back into his car. Past tense here though. The threat was over when he shot her.

She represented zero threat to him when he shot her.


145 posted on 01/17/2014 1:38:57 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf

Watch the news.


146 posted on 01/17/2014 1:54:42 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: SolidRedState
I say it was a good shooting.

You're right. Fleeing from "authority" is definitely a capital offfense not worthy of such worrysome things as a trial, jury or whatnot. Kill em all, after all, it's not like they are police officers or anything.

147 posted on 01/17/2014 2:07:56 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: oldenuff2no
The cop has responsibilities to all of the other citizens out there too.

Really? It has been thoroughly adjudcated that the police have no responsibilty to protect you whatsoever.

148 posted on 01/17/2014 2:19:03 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: oldenuff2no

Shoot ‘em all! They DARED not follow every law!!
BS.

The idea that cops should ram any car and cause it to go out of control likely killing someone is more BS.

The laws that allow cops to shoot and drive regardless of the dangers to innocent bystanders is more BS.

That dozens or more citizens are killed in accidental shooting or hit by cop cars in pursuit,yet the cop never has responsibility is BS.

We DO HAVE MORE criminals today and they are wearing police uniforms and robes, and conspiring in courthouses and Congress.

I say this cop hasn’t the temperament an American cop should have;and should be henceforth barred from any government employment or possession of weapons!

If Americans don’t wake up and rein in the police and government this nation will VERY SHORTLY be a police state.

May all the bootlickers choke on the polish.Or do cops polish the boots anymore? I see more and more wearing black uniforms with “ghosted” patches as though they are wannabe-SEALS.


149 posted on 01/17/2014 2:44:33 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: hoosierham

Cops should be restricted to the traditional six shot revolver.

Lots fewer accidental discharges.

Spraying the general direction with a 16 shot magazine is irresponsible.It seems cops can’t stop shooting until the gun goes “click”;it needs to go “click” sooner.

The cops claimed they needed large magazines because the drug dealers had them but when and how often do you hear of shootouts with drug dealers in comparison to the fusillades unleashed against a man in a doorway reaching for his wallet ,an old lady in her living room,a mental patient, the family dog, or a confused driver?


150 posted on 01/17/2014 2:51:51 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 149 | View Replies]

To: zeugma

“Fleeing” is one thing. But she tried to ram him with her carr. Different bird entirely.


151 posted on 01/17/2014 2:59:33 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver
"Yes she “assaulted” the officer, probably didnt realize he was there, but she did apparently back into his car. Past tense here though. The threat was over when he shot her."

So she thought it all out in that half of a second and decided that no one was driving that car with the revolving/flashing lights on top of it with a siren blaring. The driverless car had just followed her at high speeds and around shape turns for many minutes, right? OK we got it. She didn't know he, the driver, the cop, was there. What have you been smoking? If he was in the car or not it was still assault with a deadly weapon at the very least. It is a total BS, stupid contention to even suggest to that she didn't know he was there.

Anyone who, while evading legitimate law enforcement, drives at those insane excessive speeds and ignores stop signs in a residential area and uses her automobile as a weapon against a LEO is dangerous and deadly.

The decisions that led to her death were made by her. She is responsible for her own demise.

152 posted on 01/17/2014 3:36:23 PM PST by oldenuff2no ("For which she should be charged with and face a jury. Not summarily executed.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 145 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf

“No, I don’t think the cop was right to do what he did, but mitigating circumstances as I understand them warrants him finding another job, but not prison time.”

In this circumstance, I agree. I don’t think being a police officer should give one any special protection against prosecution. Yet, if someone just tried to back over me in their car, intentionally, would I, as a private citizen, feel threatened enough to shoot at them? Probably.

So, if I think any reasonable private citizen would be justified firing in self defense, I can’t rightly condemn a police officer for doing so.

This is different from that case a few weeks back, where the person led police on a chase, then, after exiting the vehicle, the police shot him down. In this case, the person was still behind the wheel, and whether they were going forward or back, that essentially meant they were still armed and dangerous.


153 posted on 01/17/2014 4:01:42 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

“Should we start shooting everyone who drives with excessive speed?”

Meh, if someone just nearly killed me, and I think it was intentional, I’m shooting to kill them. I don’t care if they try to run, because I have no guarantee they won’t just throw it back in reverse and come back at me. So, I’d give the cop a pass on this one.


154 posted on 01/17/2014 4:05:57 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: zeugma

Well, let me ask you something. Say someone had just shot at a police officer with a firearm, and then was fleeing the scene, still armed with their weapon. Would the officer be justified in chasing them and trying to take them down, with lethal force if necessary?


155 posted on 01/17/2014 4:08:02 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman

Perhaps. Difference being, I’m not entirely sure she attempted to use her car as a weapon, any more than he did. Of course, you call it ‘assault with a deadly weapon’ when a police officer uses his car to try to force someone else to lose control of theirs. By the same token, it’s apparently never murder when cops kill citizens because we simply don’t matter to the powers that be.


156 posted on 01/17/2014 7:46:06 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman

Also, does that death sentence he was apparently so eager to hand out also include the passenger as well? I guess the passenger, had he been killed, would have just been more collateral damage for the police state.


157 posted on 01/17/2014 7:52:15 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]

To: zeugma

Well, there is at least a difference of degree between ramming someone in a car with your car, and ramming someone not in a car with your car. Cops trying to run people off the road is certainly warranted in some situations, but like anything, they can abuse it.


158 posted on 01/17/2014 8:49:30 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 156 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

Yet another case of a badgemonkey executing someone for contempt of cop. The Honda was moving AWAY from the asshat....he had to CHASE AFTER IT ON FOOT in order to murder the driver. Absolutely NO legal justification for
the use of deadly force.


159 posted on 01/17/2014 9:38:01 PM PST by nvscanman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: camle

“no, the cop says HE had the red light, therefore she had a green one. HE ran the red light to initiate the chase.”

Thanks for the correction.


160 posted on 01/18/2014 4:53:54 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-170 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson