[FredZarguna]

Nobody has any trouble "understanding the theory," because there isn't one.

You like Wiki? Read it and weep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight_Power#Analysis_of_Mills.27_models

Seldom have scientists heaped so much scorn on anyone. Not even Pons and Fleischmann got this level of derision.

I especially like this one, which goes straight to the heart of these claims:

"BlackLight Power (BLP), founded 17 years ago as HydroCatalysis, announced last week that the company had successfully tested a prototype power system that would generate 50 KW of thermal power. BLP anticipates delivery of the new power system in 12 to 18 months [this, by the way, was in 2008, well over 12-18 months ago.] The BLP process,[49] discovered by Randy Mills, is said to coax hydrogen atoms into a "state below the ground state," called the "hydrino." There is no independent scientific confirmation of the hydrino, and BLP has a patent problem. So they have nothing to sell but bull shit. The company is therefore dependent on investors with deep pockets and shallow brains."

There is also an absolutely delicious quote from a Princeton Physics Nobel Laureate, which is even better, but the language is so deprecating I can't even post it on FR without getting banned.

[Nifster]

Answers to your so called proof that it is real "Experiments[edit] In 1996 NASA released a report describing experiments using a BLP electrolytic cell. Although not recreating the large heat gains reported for the cell by BLP, unexplained power gains ranging from 1.06 to 1.68 of the input power were reported that whilst "...admit[ing] the existence of an unusual source of heat with the cell...falls far short of being compelling".[34] Around 2002 the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC) granted a Phase I grant to Anthony Marchese, a mechanical engineer at Rowan University, to study a possible rocket propulsion that would use hydrinos. [35] In 2005: Šišović and others published a paper describing experimental data and analysis of Mills' claim that a resonant transfer model (RTM) explains the excessive Doppler broadening of the Hα line. Šišović concluded that: "The detected large excessive broadening in pure hydrogen and in Ne–H2 mixture is in agreement with CM [Collision Model] and other experimental results" and that "these results can’t be explained by RTM". The collision model explanation for excessive broadening of the Hα line is based on established physics.[36] Analysis of Mills' models[edit] In 2005, the Journal of Applied Physics published a critique by A.V. Phelps of the 2004 article, "Water bath calorimetric study of excess heat generation in resonant transfer plasmas" by J. Phillips, R. Mills and X. Chen.[37] Phelps criticized both the calorimetric techniques and the underlying theory described in the Phillips/Mills/Chen article. The journal also published a response to Phelps' critique on the same day.[38] In a paper published in Physics Letters A, Norman Dombey concluded that Mills' theoretical hydrino states are unphysical. For the hydrino states, the binding strength increases as the strength of the electric potential decreases, with maximum binding strength when the potential has disappeared completely, where Dombey remarked "We could call these anomalous states "homeopathic" states because the smaller the coupling, the larger the effect." The model also assumes that the nuclear charge distribution is a point rather than having an arbitrarily small non-zero radius. It also lacks an analogous solution in the Schrödinger equation, which governs non-relativistic systems. Dombey concluded: "We suggest that outside of science fiction this is sufficient reason to disregard them."[39] From a suggestion in Dombey's paper, further work by Antonio Di Castro has shown that states below the ground state, as described in Mills' work, are incompatible with the Schrödinger, Klein-Gordon and Dirac equations, key equations in the study of quantum systems.[40] The Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics published an article by Hans-Joachim Kunze, professor emeritus at the Institute for Experimental Physics, Ruhr University Bochum,[41] critical of the 2003 paper authored by R. Mills and P. Ray, Extreme ultraviolet spectroscopy of helium–hydrogen. The abstract of the article is: "It is suggested that spectral lines, on which the fiction of fractional principal quantum numbers in the hydrogen atom is based, are nothing else but artefacts." Kunze stated that it was impossible to detect the novel lines below 30 nm reported by Mills and Ray because the equipment they used did not have the capability to detect them as per the manufacturer and as per "every book on vacuum-UV spectroscopy" and "therefore the observed lines must be artefacts". Kunze also stated that: "The enormous spectral widths of the novel lines point to artefacts, too."[42]" And Fred I love what the fellow from Princeton was quoted as saying…. priceless

[Kevmo]

Nobody has any trouble “understanding the theory,” because there isn’t one.
***There are dozens of LENR theories, just like there are many theories of gravity (no generally accepted theory yet) and several theories of condensed matter High temp superconductivity (no generally accepted theory yet). But that doesn’t stop you from jumping on gravitational science and superconductivity threads and loudly displaying your scientific ignorance.

[Kevmo]

You like Wiki? Read it and weep:
***Not particularly. In a previous thread you keep pointing me to your anti-science Luddite websites and I keep pointing you to things like LENR-Canr.org, so we need an intermediate ground. Significantly, in the example I presented, you were claiming that Rossi is a convicted con man, but he isn’t. He’s a convicted tax evader, and many FReepers posting today would go to jail for what he’s been convicted of.

[Kevmo]

Seldom have scientists heaped so much scorn on anyone.
***Science by consensus. Wonderful. I suppose you’re just a dyed-in-the-wool AGW sympathizer as well.

[Kevmo]

I especially like this one, which goes straight to the heart of these claims:
***I especially like the fact that he’s only spending private money, whereas your fraudulent hot-fusion buddies have already spent hundreds of $billions of public money on their chimera.

[Kevmo]

There is no independent scientific confirmation of the hydrino, and BLP has a patent problem. So they have nothing to sell but bull shit.
***I’m singularly impressed with your concern about BLP’s patent problem. If they demo like they say, they won’t have one. You sure have a lot of faith in your psdeudo-scientific bowlsheet.

The company is therefore dependent on investors with deep pockets and shallow brains.”
***Sounds a lot like hot-fusion guys to me, deep pockets and people still willing to pour money down that rathole after 50 years and still results 50 years on the horizon.

There is also an absolutely delicious quote from a Princeton Physics Nobel Laureate, which is even better, but the language is so deprecating I can’t even post it on FR without getting banned.
***How about the Physics Nobel Laureate Feynman: Experiments trump theory. No doubt you have trouble with that scientific self-evident factoid.