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1 posted on 01/12/2014 2:26:26 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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They want to be the ones running the prison and they want everyone else to be prisoners.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 2:28:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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Dana Loesch: From Liberal To Conservative
4 posted on 01/12/2014 2:31:34 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Mia San Mia)
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My theory is that liberals are people stuck in arrested development. They are mentally, teenagers. And nobody’s forcing them to grow up.

They are perpetual teenagers. Hyper-idealistic not caring about how things really are in the real world. Expecting others to take care of them, but only when they want it, and don’t ever judge them (but give them stuff). Wanting to play house, play being adults, but be shielded only from the negative consequences, and be the sole reaper of any good consequences and fortune.

These are people that want “society” to be their parents, they want society to shelter them if they get into trouble, they want society to force others to do stuff, but they don’t want society to force them to do anything they don’t want to do.

They have stopped in their progression to being a complete, total adult person, who takes full responsibility for their actions, good or bad, has no problem with others taking care of their wants and needs, and feels like they deserve and are entitled to this kind of care. They are perpetual adolescents and they are trapped there. Reality and the real world being on your own, is what forms the final step into adulthood. these people have never been forced to make/take this final step in natural human existence.


5 posted on 01/12/2014 2:37:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Figuring out the Liberal "Mind"

I'd use an analogy-by-art approach. Study a lot of abstract art and paradox drawings like Escher and so on, as well as fridge pics by first graders (no insult intended, first graders). That should give you an idea what the inside of a liberal mind is like, as well as the perception from in there.

7 posted on 01/12/2014 2:50:29 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Liberals are mean, vicious, vindictive and hateful. I don’t see where you get off thinking they are on the caring side. They only care about themselves.

You want to figure out where a liberal gets his ideas? They start with the premise that there is no God except themselves and end up worshiping the State.

Liberalism is a religion. The further a man gets from God the closer he gets to a liberal mindset.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 2:57:25 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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Fear.

At root, they're collectively afraid of their own shadows.
It paralyzes any vestigial common sense.
Hence their donning kneepads for most anyone/anything promising to 'protect' them.

The old adage is unable to penetrate their trembling self-loathing:


     Courage isn't the lack of fear, it's the willingness to act in spite of it

10 posted on 01/12/2014 2:58:07 PM PST by tomkat
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Liberals regard themselves as elite as well as better educated and informed than most people. Liberal policies are all about “helping” the majority who are seen as incapable of making the “right” decisions in their lives...hence liberal policies force us to buy the “right” light bulbs,cars, healthcare etc. Liberals are intollerent and regard anyone who does not follow their world view as stupid, racists, bigoted, deniers, mind numbed robots who listen to Rush and homophobes. Liberals would readily agree to censorship of all but the “right” ideas, forcing those who do not agree to conform and have no idea about the concepts of individual liberty and limited government.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 3:07:06 PM PST by The Great RJ
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A lot of people completely blow off my explanation of “liberals” because it seems reactionary and about 20 other adjectives. But people should really think about this.

Non liberals look at the greenies crying around trees as in the famous youtube video and think ‘Those people are crazy; They look at Occupy Wall Street hipsters and think they are just clueless trust funders; they look at their next door neighbors who are ‘just like you and me’ but vote Democrat and say to themselves “Well... they are intelligent people that just don’t U N D E R S T A NnnnnnnnDddddddd...

Well, in part that is kindasorta part of it. But it’s the symptom of the real problem. Liberals are at their core, evil. Well and truly, textbook/look up the definition EVIL.

Don’t stop reading. Think it through. This thread talks about morality and how liberals prioritize it. Well, look at the facts. And yes, they are FACTS because every day, on every subject they take the most evil of all possible positions and outcomes.

Pick any of the 7 deadly sins. I promise you that IMMEDIATELY upon uttering them one by one, an image will flash into your mind showing an example of a liberal committing it. In fact, you will be flooded by memories of liberals committing them.

Now I do not intend for this to be a religious screed, but morality is part and parcel of religion. And what do liberals fight hardest to destroy? Yup. Religion. So it cannot be separated.

That said, Non liberals are not perfect. We screw up like everyone else. But who is responsible for the most rapes? People of a liberal bent or people of a non liberal philosophy? Who commits the vast majority of murders? Robbery? Assault?

Is it the church lady that forces transgender education and restrooms on the grade school kids of the world or the WoymnZ studies grad? Is it the Duck Dynasty rednecks of the world that push for the surveillance state tactics we now live under or the children of the 60s and their wannabee hangers on from the current generation? Is it the political right that do everything in their power to delegitimize Israel and any other country that does not follow State Dept edicts on homosexuality, or the ‘radical right wing nutjob”?

Evil is a concept, but it is also an action. And concepts are meaningless unless acted upon. So it’s really simple. Who is committing the ridiculously disproportionate actions of evil in the world today?

Well, the FACTS show that it’s people who follow the tennets of liberalism...be they marxist, socialist or Hatian Voodoo.

So the next time you hear someone tell you that such and such person is ‘really a good person’ and that they are just like you and I...well, all I can tell you is that ‘good people’ don’t willingly empower evil. No matter if they are your next door neighbor or not.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 3:16:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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Figuring out the liberal mind

In order to figure out the liberal mind, one has to determine whether or not a liberal even HAS a mind to begin with. I am not convinced they do.

14 posted on 01/12/2014 3:25:24 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71a)
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Isn’t “liberal mind” a contradiction in terms?


16 posted on 01/12/2014 3:31:16 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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I have been turning this over in my head since I entered this thread, and can see the basic flaw in this "logical" liberal thinking (I know...any oxymoron, but I digress...)

The basic flaw is encoded in this statement below, but what these statement REALLY does is highlight the cleavage between conservatism and liberalism:

"...Basically he has found that there what he calls “Moral Foundations” that humans everywhere subscribe to. These are in our makeups, and we filter information to fit them into our moral foundation..."

LIBERALS BELIEVE ALL PEOPLE ARE INHERENTLY GOOD, AND IF THEY ARE NOT, IT IS BECAUSE OF AN EFFECT SOCIETY HAS HAD ON THEM. CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE BAD, THAT NO AMOUNT OF REMEDIATION OR REHABILITATION IS GOING TO CHANGE THEM, AND THAT ANY PERSONAL OR GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTION MUST TAKE THAT DIFFERENCE INTO ACCOUNT.

It is why the US Constitution is such a brilliant document...and why the founders were equally as gifted in their creation of it. They KNEW what tyranny was, and they knew that if they let the inherent good of human nature guide our government, it was going to founder on the rocks of that assumption, because there are humans who not only NOT be guided by an inherent good, but will go as far as to take advantage of a populace that believes that a ruling class has inherent good in it.

Secondly, liberals are full of hot air when they utilize terms such as Care, Fairness, Loyalty, Authority, and Purity. To the uninitiated (in our unfortunate case, the lazy and uninformed electorate, or the "sheeple" as they may be labeled) these terms are self evident.

What is WRONG with 'CARING'?

Is FAIRNESS such a wrong goal? Shouldn't things be FAIR?

LOYALTY is a good thing, right?

AUTHORITY is the glue that helps us be a nation of Law and Order, isn't it?

PURITY is an obvious good thing, all people STRIVE to be pure, don't they?

And so, they view these things. They mirror their values onto others, which is bad enough, but what is worse, they have no problem twisting the very words they base their philosophy on in order to suit their ends.

Liberals believe in Utopia, and all means to reach that end are acceptable.

What does 'CARING' actually mean? If you don't believe that illegal immigrants SHOULD get money from taxpaying Americans to get a college education and free health care, then you aren't 'caring'.

FAIRNESS? This is a big one to liberals. Like the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) it can mean anything they want it to mean. And it covers EVERYTHING from minimum wage (why should a CEO get paid 400x what a burger flipper gets?), healthcare (why should American citizens get it, and undocumented workers don't) welfare (people living at the "poverty line" aren't there because of anything THEY did, it isn't FAIR) warfare (it's not fair to use jet fighters and guided weapons to fight enemies who only have guns) and so on. LOYALTY cannot be to a country, soldiers, a constitution, or a flag, but CAN be directed towards a union, a political boss, a despot or a Marxist president.

AUTHORITY means THEIR OWN authority that will help them reach their liberal UTOPIA. ALL actions approved by that loyalty are acceptable, because the ends justifies the means to them, especially when it helps them get closer to whatever their liberal utopia happens to be. Doesn't make a difference if 60 million people have to be murdered as the Communist Chinese did in their attempts to achieve a communist utopia.

And lastly, we come to PURITY. Liberals believe that people cannot help themselves when it comes to certain behavior such as crime, homosexuality and other immoral behavior. Their solution to this to be able to claim PURITY is to simply have no standards whatsoever. If there is no standard to meet, then one cannot be pilloried for not meeting that standard. To Liberals, their biggest crime is hypocrisy, and it is what they attempt to accuse their enemies of at every turn. To avoid having the charge leveled against them, all behavior is acceptable. So, this entire construct is just another attempt to place what they hope is a logical and irrefutable grid or framework on their pathetic and dangerous ideology that allows them to codify it, but like everything else they do, it isn't worth the paper it is written on because it is all just hot air. When you refuse the concession that words have meanings, you can make them mean whatever you WANT them to mean, which is what ALL liberal ideologies have in common.

17 posted on 01/12/2014 3:36:06 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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Well, I'm going to go ahead and give the severely politically incorrect answer. I divide human thinking (among sane people) into two categories: feminine and masculine. The feminine is concerned with the immediate surroundings and immedite gratification (which could translate to hungry - need food now) while the masculine is concerned with the outside world and long-range planning.

Now, in a healthy society, you would have the feminine handling the imediate surroundings (household) and the masculine handling the bigger picture (society at large). The women would say "Hey, the kids are hungry, I'm hungry, we need clothes, the car doesn't run" etc etc and the man would figure out how to take care of these things. The women also demand security, and the men would figure out how take care of that as well. When these forces are in balance, we have a functioning society.

However, we are WAY, WAY, WAY out of balance on these things now, and a huge reason for this is that we have allowed the predominantly feminine half of society to be in charge of the larger picture (the masculine area of responsibility), where their short-range viewpoint does not produce good results when applied to long-range planning. The feminine don't understand the need for a strong military in peacetime, because they only think of short-term, immediate-vicinity goals, so prepring for a possible war decades out and thousands of miles away seems illogical to them.

The liberal voting base is excessively feminine. This includes the men as well as the women. Even the men have embraced feminine thinking, because it is the predominant political philosophy now, and most people are sheep who follow whoever has the lead. Also, some men are just feminine, period. Are they evil? No, but they are easily manipulated by those who ARE evil, because all the evil ones have to do is present the short-term emotional argument and voila, you have instant support. The main proponents of gay marriage, for instance, know damn well that it is a ridiculous idea, but their end goal is not "equality" it is the destruction of American culture and Christianity. Meanwhile, the feminine suckers think they are suppoorting "justice" and "love".

The freaks we see having in-your-face sex parades and vandalizing churches etc. ARE evil, but your average Dem voter doesn't identify with them. Your average Dem voter is a sheep being led around by the Devil.

And, just in case anyone missed my main point: we never shouod have given women the vote. It is not because women are evil, but it is because women, for the most part, do not have the proper world view for running the larger elements of society. They will always choose security over freedom, and will be prone to emotional appeals regardless of how silly and destructive they are.
21 posted on 01/12/2014 4:08:07 PM PST by fr_freak
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Liberals have minds?


28 posted on 01/12/2014 4:58:37 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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Articles that explain how modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 5:24:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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I’m sorry, this theory is just too kind to progressive/liberal/Democrat philosophy.

I see their philosophy as consisting of 3 things:

B as in Big. Anything big is ok, big government, big labor, big banks. Individuals are small and therefore to be controlled.

H as in Hate. They hate anyone that does not agree with them. Hence they use personal attacks a lot. How often does a liberal call someone a racist?

O as in Oh shut up! If you don’t agree with them, you have no place in the conversation, you are evil. They will use all the tools of government (i.e. the IRS) as well as the media to silence you.


35 posted on 01/12/2014 5:32:33 PM PST by MS from the OC
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There is no “figuring out the liberal mind”.


36 posted on 01/12/2014 5:51:50 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Waste of time.


37 posted on 01/12/2014 6:11:29 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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thanks for this post China...

I saw the Ted talk and i think that ‘those’ people
are not true liberal. Ted was talking about reasonable
people who are liberal. Most of what i see of people who
are called liberals are something other than liberal in the true sense.


38 posted on 01/12/2014 7:20:13 PM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Criminal-Mind-Revised-Updated/dp/140004619X


39 posted on 01/12/2014 7:20:20 PM PST by PGalt
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There are decent liberals who want good for people, but have been brainwashed to think that it is government that needs to do that good. Many eventually wake up and become conservatives. It is the communists that are died in the wool and are very dangerous.


41 posted on 01/12/2014 7:51:07 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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