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BREAKING: OBAMA COLLEGE RECORDS RELEASED-FINANCIAL AID AS A FOREIGNER! [Real??? Hoax???]
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Posted on 01/12/2014 11:18:26 AM PST by Arthur McGowan

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To: Clete; butterdezillion

Clete wrote:

“I don’t know where you got your information, but the pilot,Clyde Kawasaki,has been flying for Makani Kai Air for more than a year. “The pilot,Clyde Kawasaki,has been flying for Makani Kai for one year. He previously worked as a pilot for Aloha Airlines and has experience working thousands of hours of flight time, according to a Makani Kai representative.”

http://themolokaidispatch.com/makani-kai-kalaupapa-crash-updated/

Thanks for that link! From the article:
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Besides the two Department of Health officials, Miller said two of the passengers were tourists, one was a construction worker, another came to do some work for the day in Kalaupapa, and one was a Kalaupapa National Park Service employee, along with her husband.

Miller described the survivors as dazed and subdued when they got back on shore.

According to Molokai General Hospital staff, the three survivors who were taken to the hospital last night arrived dripping wet, cold, hungry and most of all, tired. The hospital washed and dried their clothes, fed them and let them rest. The three reportedly stayed at Hotel Molokai last night. Three of the other survivors were taken directly to Oahu, while two declined treatment, remaining in Kalaupapa, according to emergency officials.

Miller called it fortunate that a military aircraft was doing touch and goes at the Kalaupapa airport around the time of the crash and reported the accident. Within 15 minutes, Coast Guard was on site, and minutes afterward, Maui County fire and rescue personnel had divers starting rescue operations, said Miller.”
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161 posted on 01/16/2014 6:27:42 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Clete

The Makani Kai web page that lists their pilots has been updated with pilot changes at least 3 times within the last year and has never - including last time I checked a couple weeks ago, well after Dec 11th - listed Kawasaki as a pilot for them.


162 posted on 01/16/2014 8:16:19 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Drew68

Yeah, so you could have a great vacation where you get escorted out of buildings by police called in to try to intimidate you. Lots and lots of fun.

You have no idea what it costs to be a real patriot. Not one iota of a clue. How much personal money have you spent fighting the crime of treason? How much of the time does your wife spend carrying a firearm because she doesn’t know who might be targeting her? Does she take a firearm with her wherever she goes? How many years have you given up full-time employment in order to be ridiculed, harassed, and called a con artist by couch-potato know-nothings because you volunteered to help with law enforcement investigations and got assigned to one so major that George Soros, David Axelrod, and Rahm Emanuel threatened nearly all the cable news network CEO’s, who then told their people that they and their families could be killed if they brought up the issue the investigation pertains to?

When you grow up maybe you can have the balls that Zullo has. In the meantime keep making your big-boy snide comments on a forum where nobody knows your name.


163 posted on 01/16/2014 8:26:24 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Clete; Greenperson

They said the cause of death was arrhythmia, which is a conclusion reached through exclusion. They couldn’t find any other cause so they said her heart became erratic, brought on by stress. But greenperson explained that there are 2 kinds of arrhythmia. Atrial arrhythmia is not usually serious, and she would have been diagnosed with this before now. Ventricular arrhythmia is serious - it’s why Dick Cheney has a pacemaker - and is not brought on by stress; it’s a physical condition created by earlier heart trauma.

Did I butcher that really badly, greenperson?

I can’t remember which Coast Guard document it was in, but it said that if a person is going to have cold water shock that impacts their heart, it will happen within the first 5 minutes after entering the water.

If you want to understand why there are questions, a good point to start at is http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3110483/posts?page=262#262 .

One correction I should make is that the flight times I calculated were based on maximum speed and should have been based on cruising speed, so the flight time from Honolulu should be 25 minutes rather than 15. An addition should be that I can show photos of 5 different women floating in the water with life jackets, and there were only 3 women claimed to be on that flight and supposedly confirmed by the numbers used by the Coast Guard, NTSB, Makani Kai owner Richard Schuman, and pilot Clyde Kawasaki. So they have all hidden the existence of AT LEAST one woman on that flight.

There’s way more that could/should be added but that’s a pretty important thing which confirms that the 4 above-mentioned entities are deceiving us at best.


164 posted on 01/16/2014 8:45:11 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

“Atrial arrhythmia is not usually serious, and she would have been diagnosed with this before now. Ventricular arrhythmia is serious - it’s why Dick Cheney has a pacemaker - and is not brought on by stress; it’s a physical condition created by earlier heart trauma.

Did I butcher that really badly, greenperson?”
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For the most part, you got it right. I’m no doctor but palpitations (which everybody has at some point) are most often benign. Premature beats (perceived as skipped beats) can be atrial or ventricular. If somebody has a problem with them, then a 24-hour monitoring will determine what kind they are and they’re almost always benign. The person should lay off caffeine, or chocolate, or whatever meds might be causing them. Stress, too. Even dieting.

But stress causes BENIGN palpitations. Someone predisposed to ventricular fibrillation (which is far different from tachycardia or skipped beats) will have obvious problems visible on a cardiogram. If there’s a doctor in the house, then that person can probably explain it better.

If Fuddy had regular checkups, and she probably did, being health director, then surely any preexisting heart condition would be known to the doctor and the coroner would also know. Her brother would probably know, too.

(This is the first I’ve seen of this thread, so I can’t speak in context, because I haven’t read it yet.)

On the other hand, if she had a heart attack brought on by stress, that’s not surprising in a woman of her age and weight. She may have had “hardening of the arteries” and may have been ripe for a heart attack. But that should have been immediately visible at autopsy.

She was a pear-shaped person, and somebody like that isn’t necessarily unhealthy and at risk for heart attacks, or so they tell us. Her doctor would know if she had high cholesterol or diabetes.

They didn’t say she had a heart attack, however, which means they didn’t see elevated enzymes in her blood or any other indicator of a heart attack. They said, instead, that she died from arrhythmia caused by stress. But again, they can’t diagnose arrhythmia in a non-beating heart, so they just pulled this one out of their rears, imho.

It’s a mystery and probably will remain so.


165 posted on 01/16/2014 11:46:11 AM PST by Greenperson
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To: Arthur McGowan








if you want to keep your doctor
I want a piece of the action








166 posted on 03/08/2014 3:50:21 PM PST by devolve (- Tell Vladimir after my erection I have more FLEXIBILITY -- I need more SPACE - BHO Jr -)
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To: devolve

I believe this is a well-worn hoax.


167 posted on 03/08/2014 8:36:19 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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