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The Fleischmann–Pons Effect: Reactions and Processes
JOURNAL OF CONDENSED MATTER NUCLEAR SCIENCE ^ | December 2013 | Stanislaw Szpak and Frank Gordon

Posted on 01/11/2014 12:24:45 PM PST by Kevmo

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To: TexasGator
"I'm impressed!"

One does not need large, impressive pieces of apparatus to produce good and valid work. In fact, sometimes it is the very smallness that is needed (as in my current work in microfluidics). Our motto is "don't use a milliliter if a microliter will do".

21 posted on 01/13/2014 8:22:28 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: Wonder Warthog

“The published data say it DOES work.”

OK. Point me to a ‘published data’. Not a site. A piece of data.

“Difficult to produce “on demand”, but definitely a real phenomenon.”

hmmm. I thought that one could put in his order for one of these wonder machines ... deliverable soon.


22 posted on 01/13/2014 8:28:24 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Wonder Warthog

“Our motto is “don’t use a milliliter if a microliter will do”. “

Or ... “We don’t need a kilowatt, when a microwatt will do ...


23 posted on 01/13/2014 8:37:01 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
"OK. Point me to a ‘published data’. Not a site. A piece of data."

Nope. Not gonna happen. I will tell you where to start (either the excerpt from Beaudette's book at LENR-CANR.org, or Storms "Students Guide to Cold Fusion"), but I expect you to expend a little effort. Search terms (Beaudette LENR-CANR.org PDF) and (Storms "Students Guide")...omit the parentheses, of course.

Why do I do that?? To separate the honest skeptics from the skeptopaths. An honest skeptic will take the start source and check it out...his scientific ethics will not allow him to do anything else. A skeptopath will refuse to, and blather on about "there is no data". Since the skeptopath has no ethics, he will refuse.

Saves me a lot of work, and is an infallible test for skeptopathy. Works better than garlic for vampires.

"...hmmm. I thought that one could put in his order for one of these wonder machines ... deliverable soon.

We're talking about the science....not power plants.

24 posted on 01/13/2014 9:24:25 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: Wonder Warthog

Me: “OK. Point me to a ‘published data’. Not a site. A piece of data.”

You: Nope. Not gonna happen.

Because no piece of data exists. Thank you.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 9:33:48 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Wonder Warthog

A link with your shared interest:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x223663


26 posted on 01/13/2014 9:38:48 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Wonder Warthog

This is your SCIENCE! From your source:

“Many people want to know how to replicate the claims. This Guide does not provide such
information because no certain method has been published.”


27 posted on 01/13/2014 9:41:48 AM PST by TexasGator
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“Many people want to know how to replicate the claims. This Guide does not provide such information because no certain method has been published.”

I think the planets have to be lined up correctly. It might also be useful if the person conducting the experiment has the correct astrological sign.
28 posted on 01/13/2014 9:47:32 AM PST by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: Wonder Warthog

From your source:

“Energy generators can be located in each home.”

Rossi said he would deliver in 2012 ...

Rossi said he would deliver in 2013 ...

When will Rossi say he will deliver in 2014?


29 posted on 01/13/2014 10:02:23 AM PST by TexasGator
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"Because no piece of data exists. Thank you."

Thanks for outing yourself, Mr. S.

Of course no single reference exists....the evidence is scattered across multiple publications. As is the case with EVERY OTHER SCIENTIFIC PHENOMON in the research stage.

It's always interesting watching you skeptopaths trying to come up with excuses as to why you can't/won't read the published works. Some really creative excuses show up.

But it's fun to watch.

30 posted on 01/13/2014 10:22:50 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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“Of course no single reference exists....the evidence is scattered across multiple publications. “

Evidence is scattered. Good argument. Let me know when you have some real evidence. Thank you.


31 posted on 01/13/2014 11:52:06 AM PST by TexasGator
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“It’s always interesting watching you skeptopaths trying to come up with excuses as to why you can’t/won’t read the published works.”

I read some. Total crap.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 11:53:06 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Wonder Warthog

Are you the same warthog on the pimping LENR websites?


33 posted on 01/13/2014 11:54:56 AM PST by TexasGator
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"Evidence is scattered. Good argument. Let me know when you have some real evidence. Thank you."

LOL. Proving my point with every word. Garlic to vampires. Skeptopaths absolutely will NOT read the published data.

"I read some. Total crap."

LOL. You haven't had TIME to digest either the Beaudette material OR the Storms material and follow up with reading even a single full paper. But just for grins....which specific full paper did you read??

"Are you the same warthog on the pimping LENR websites?"

Why do you think it matters?

34 posted on 01/13/2014 12:22:46 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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Me: “Are you the same warthog on the pimping LENR websites?”

You: Why do you think it matters?

Follow the $$$$ and you will find the scammers.


35 posted on 01/13/2014 12:28:13 PM PST by TexasGator
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“LOL. You haven’t had TIME to digest either the Beaudette material OR the Storms material and follow up with reading even a single full paper. “

Uh, I learned to read before today ...

I probably studied cold fusion before you were born.


36 posted on 01/13/2014 12:30:19 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

The article being discussed concerns the suppression of funding and publication of break-through research, or anything else, that wobbles the existing concepts held by the higher panjandrums in any scientific field.

What are your opinions on Anthropogenic Global Warming?


37 posted on 01/13/2014 12:37:02 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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“publication of break-through research,”

Then why are we discussing LENR?


38 posted on 01/13/2014 12:41:45 PM PST by TexasGator
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Then why are we discussing LENR?

Actually, I wasn’t. I was discussing sneering Pooh Bahs who reject new ideas in science. I really don’t know if there is anything to LENR, but I suspect there is. Reputable scientists have indicated that they have found something, including some at Naval Research. The article cites several published articles, just none in Science or Nature.

The author of the article answered the criticism about the danger of no neutron monitoring. Personally, I wouldn’t invest in Rossi’s scheme for the same reasons I wouldn’t buy a pig in a poke. Doesn’t mean I don’t believe in the existence of pigs.

I remember poor old Alfred Wegner being contemptuously sneered at by a professor in an undergraduate geology class in the early 1950s. “He wasn’t even a geologist!”
39 posted on 01/13/2014 1:36:13 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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"Follow the $$$$ and you will find the scammers."

Since I have no financial interest in ANY LENR effort, and don't plan to have any, I fail to see how you think it matters. I follow LENR because my studies have convinced me that LENR is a real phenomenon that could be of great benefit to mankind. And no other reason.

Why are you so invested in shouting down the subject???

40 posted on 01/13/2014 2:30:38 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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