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The Fleischmann–Pons Effect: Reactions and Processes
JOURNAL OF CONDENSED MATTER NUCLEAR SCIENCE ^ | December 2013 | Stanislaw Szpak and Frank Gordon

Posted on 01/11/2014 12:24:45 PM PST by Kevmo

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1 posted on 01/11/2014 12:24:45 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

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2 posted on 01/11/2014 12:25:42 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
There is another interesting article in the same journal:

How the Flawed Journal Review Process Impedes Paradigm Shifting Discoveries

3 posted on 01/11/2014 12:48:54 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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Thanks! 162 pages of light reading ;-)


4 posted on 01/11/2014 2:12:07 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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From the paper:

“The authors claim to produce a source that emits approximately a few Hz, perhaps 10 Hz, 14 MeV DT neutrons.
This is a formidable source. The rate of 2.5 MeV DD neutron source should be considerably (many order
of magnitudes) stronger. Such a strong source of 2.5 and 14 MeV neutrons should be easily detectable with
live electronical [sic] neutron detector. The fact that the authors did not make an attempt to measure these
neutrons with the more reliable neutron detectors speaks volume of the less than adequate research effort.”


5 posted on 01/11/2014 2:38:53 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Kevmo

From the paper:

“The authors claim to produce a source that emits approximately a few Hz, perhaps 10 Hz, 14 MeV DT neutrons.
This is a formidable source. The rate of 2.5 MeV DD neutron source should be considerably (many order
of magnitudes) stronger. Such a strong source of 2.5 and 14 MeV neutrons should be easily detectable with
live electronical [sic] neutron detector. The fact that the authors did not make an attempt to measure these
neutrons with the more reliable neutron detectors speaks volume of the less than adequate research effort.”


6 posted on 01/11/2014 2:39:04 PM PST by TexasGator
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“Even if we use the referee’s erroneous value of 2 ×107 n/cm2/hr, a
neutron dose over a two-week period of 480 REM is still far below the lethal limit of 6000 REM.”

If you get 480 REM, you will be VERY VERY sick. It speaks loads that the dudes were not monitoring.


7 posted on 01/11/2014 2:42:51 PM PST by TexasGator
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“An integrated neutron radiation dose of 6 Gy is considered lethal [25]. This is equivalent to 6000 REM.b F”

Example of the fact that these guys do not know what they are talking about.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 2:46:46 PM PST by TexasGator
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If you read the article, it’s the reviewer that doesn’t know what he’s talking about. And yes, I have worked in a nuclear center for a number of years.


9 posted on 01/11/2014 5:34:49 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

bfl


10 posted on 01/11/2014 8:28:56 PM PST by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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“If you read the article, it’s the reviewer that doesn’t know what he’s talking about. And yes, I have worked in a nuclear center for a number of years.”

I stayed in a Holiday Inn. Duh.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 9:09:00 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I did my doctoral dissertation research at the Puerto Rican Nuclear Center in Mayaquez under the direction of Frank Lowman with AEC support.

Did you really stayed in a Holiday Inn?


12 posted on 01/12/2014 8:02:44 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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"The rate of 2.5 MeV DD neutron source should be considerably (many order of magnitudes) stronger."

If there is anything known about LENR from experiment, it is that the main energy-producing path is aneutronic. Other pathways that have much lower occurance rates produce tritium, gamma rays, and a VERY FEW neutrons.

13 posted on 01/13/2014 7:10:35 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: Hiddigeigei

“I did my doctoral dissertation research at the Puerto Rican Nuclear Center in Mayaquez under the direction of Frank Lowman with AEC support.”

Then you should know how stupid it would be to be carrying out ‘nuclear’ experiments with no neutron monitoring ..... DUHHHH

“Did you really stayed in a Holiday Inn?”

Yes. Many times. I did my post graduate work under Dr. Nils Diaz. Director NRC.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 7:36:47 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Wonder Warthog

“If there is anything known about LENR from experiment, it is that the main energy-producing path is aneutronic.”

I love LENR. It produces no evidence of its existence. Perfect scam.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 7:40:41 AM PST by TexasGator
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"I love LENR. It produces no evidence of its existence. Perfect scam."

Tons of published results, most peer-reviewed. See LENR-CANR.org for a reasonably comprehensive bibliography of papers. All by reputable researchers from reputable institutions.

Rossi is the ONLY exception to the above.

16 posted on 01/13/2014 8:05:30 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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“Tons of published results”

None of which shows that it actually works ...


17 posted on 01/13/2014 8:06:57 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Wonder Warthog
"See LENR-CANR.org"

I'm impressed!


18 posted on 01/13/2014 8:12:28 AM PST by TexasGator
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"Then you should know how stupid it would be to be carrying out ‘nuclear’ experiments with no neutron monitoring ....."

I have seen done (and done myself) quite a few. You set up monitoring equipment for the type radiation you know you will be working with or likely to produce. Ge(Li), Si(Li) or NaI(Tl) if gammas and you want spectral data. GM tubes if not. GM/BF3 w. neutrons. And so on.

The folks at the SPAWAR lab have done probably hundreds of runs under these and similar conditions, so they can be reasonably sure that the maximum neutron flux will be within safety limits with data from earlier work.

19 posted on 01/13/2014 8:16:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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"None of which shows that it actually works ..."

Sorry, Dudley.......wrong. I've read sufficient of the papers to know what data is and isn't there. The published data say it DOES work. Difficult to produce "on demand", but definitely a real phenomenon.

20 posted on 01/13/2014 8:19:19 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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