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1 posted on 01/10/2014 11:54:06 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

There’s no jam....there are around forty players who just won’t make the HOF, because of the era they played, period.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 11:57:59 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: EveningStar
Declare George Will to be Hall of Fame Czar. It will give him something to do and keep him away from politics.
3 posted on 01/10/2014 12:01:09 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: EveningStar

Maddux, Glavine, Thomas were all HOF worthy. Biggio never struck me as a HOF level player. Bagwell and Piazza are in the group with Bonds, Clemens, McGwire etc..as steroid tainted candidates.

The reason the Baseball writers vote is that by being with the teams, they saw more baseball than anyone else. That’s not the case anymore.

The only change the HOF should make is to allow other people a vote. The beat writer for the Brewers does not see more baseball than, say, Greg Amsinger on the MLB network (example).

Make that change, keep everything else the same IMO.


4 posted on 01/10/2014 12:03:13 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t want to hear any griping about baseball process. Try checking out the horse process. Once they made changes to be more objective and after some griping rolled over like scared ninnies and changes it back to the same basic lame way as always. It’s cheapened when it’s guaranteed so many are going to get in, even when the candidates aren’t that great.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 12:19:04 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: EveningStar

The players have no one to blame but themselves. They sacrificed the guy who never got called up or was only in MLB for a cup of coffee because someone else was on PEDS or was 35+ and extending their career by using PEDS. In exchange PEDS abusers received huge contracts that drove ALL the MLB player contracts up, the users and non-users. The logjam wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t for folks splitting their votes between known/suspected PEDS guys and second tier HOFers.

Not that the vote couldn’t be expanded to include the SABR guys or announcers. Even if that ever happens, getting 75% of any group to agree is going to be fairly rare thing. Flawed as it is, it’s still the only hall of fame that really matters.

Freegards


6 posted on 01/10/2014 12:22:35 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: EveningStar

Until Rose is inducted there is no HOF.

One of the idiots that did not vote for Biggio said he was concerned Biggio used steroids. Yeah all 5’10” 170 pounds of him. Moron. His problem is he played for the Lastros.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 12:24:06 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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there is not a more smug and sanctimonious organization than the BBWAA.
The writers sat in the clubhouses all across the country while players were doing what they were doing and not a peep. Then, all of a sudden someone figures it all out and they all decide that it’s suddenly wrong and now all those guys that gave them quotes, gave them stories and made them famous are not not worthy of a vote.
These guys beclown themselves every time they “vote” just to show how important they are.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 1:15:24 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: EveningStar
I've been following this pretty closely and there is a lot of talk about how times have changed and the right to vote ought to be expanded to TV and website analysts, maybe cut back on the number of writers or at least limit how many years they are allowed to cast ballots.

Right now its a lifetime gig and a lot of the writers are not doing their homework, and this is aside from the steroid issue.

25 posted on 01/10/2014 6:56:54 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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