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To: usconservative

You’re still drinking the Apple “kool-aid”.

Macs are still being made with the “same” components as PCs, and they’re still being made to limit what an owner can do with them. A purchaser cannot “upgrade” or swap out the the hardware and can’t fix it if something goes wrong, and can’t upgrade to a different OS.

There is nothing special about the hardware on Macs, and their is even less special about the Mac OSes. In fact, Mac OSes tend to go unsupported after about 3-5 years.

Also, that’s a bunch of bull about Macs not getting viruses. The only “protection” that ever favored Macs, was the fact that they were a minor player in the PC market-place. It was mostly “security through obscurity” that had Mac users feeling safe.

Macs aren’t selling very well lately, and they could be going the way of the dinosaur within the next 3 years, perhaps 5. Even Apple is not showing that much love for Macs, and they’ve been concentrating their efforts on iPhones and iPads. A lot of people in the industry are making the same claims as I have regarding how Apple is not really serious with their Macs anymore. They’re just “mobile” and iCloud and iTunes, mostly.


49 posted on 01/01/2014 6:41:27 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: adorno
Macs are still being made with the “same” components as PCs,

Yes, which is exactly why I can upgrade and memory, storage, etc.. as I wish ...

and they’re still being made to limit what an owner can do with them. A purchaser cannot “upgrade” or swap out the the hardware and can’t fix it if something goes wrong, and can’t upgrade to a different OS.

Now who's drinking the kool-aid??? On the one had you admit they're made with the same components as a PC then go on to claim I can't upgrade it? Absolutely incorrect! I've upgraded the OS on my Mac with zero issues, which is alot more than I can say about the Windows 8 --> 8.1 upgrade that screwed up one of our home computers.

Also, that’s a bunch of bull about Macs not getting viruses. The only “protection” that ever favored Macs, was the fact that they were a minor player in the PC market-place. It was mostly “security through obscurity” that had Mac users feeling safe.

Hmmm ..... I remember reading some talking points from Microsoft which stated the same thing. Who's drinking the kool-aid now?

There is nothing special about the hardware on Macs, and their is even less special about the Mac OSes.

You're really contradicting yourself here. On the one hand you claim I can't upgrade my Mac (which I can ....) because it's a Mac, then you go on to point it's the same as a PC but I still can't upgrade it because it's a Mac, and now you say there's nothing special about Mac hardware and software?

Which do you wish me to believe? Fact is, I've upgraded my Mac hardware and software in the last two years and those upgrades (specifically the OS) has gone much more seamlessly and without error than the latest Microsoft OS.

And again, I say that as a guy who goes all the way back .... (nevermind, I don't want to repeat myself.)

In fact, Mac OSes tend to go unsupported after about 3-5 years.

It's called INNOVATION, something Microsoft should be trying rather than keeping old OS core's at the heart of their OS and keeping their users back. BTW:When I say "innovation" that doesn't mean make my PC look like my damn' gaming console.

Macs aren’t selling very well lately, and they could be going the way of the dinosaur within the next 3 years, perhaps 5. Even Apple is not showing that much love for Macs, and they’ve been concentrating their efforts on iPhones and iPads.

Which goes precisely to my point at the very beginning of our discussion that Smartphones (and if you wish to include them, tablets) are not just gaining market share, they're actually replacing desktops and laptops. Why is that? Because of the basic functionality people use on their PC's they can do on their SmartPhones whenever they want, where ever they want.

A lot of people in the industry are making the same claims as I have regarding how Apple is not really serious with their Macs anymore. They’re just “mobile” and iCloud and iTunes, mostly.

That's not a majority opinion, it's a minority opinion. The fact is Consumers are driving computing "to the cloud" by their choice of PLATFORMS they use to perform daily tasks. Those PLATFORMS may be iOS, Droid or even Windows powered SmartPhones or Tablets. Apple sees that in their Consumer base, as do the Droid OS vendors.

The one who's far behind the curve and struggling to catch up is Microsoft. I have Gartner and Forrester research on my side to back that claim up.

55 posted on 01/01/2014 7:01:04 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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