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1 posted on 12/26/2013 1:54:41 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Predictions about technology are dangerous things. They are almost always wrong.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/26/2013 2:01:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin

Never. Not in our mortal bodies, anyway.


3 posted on 12/26/2013 2:03:13 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Possible but its a ways off.

I’d say we’re 200 years from being able to reach stars within 10 or 15 light years in a human lifespan. They’ll probably be unmanned probes to begin with.


5 posted on 12/26/2013 2:03:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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At this rate, never:

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6 posted on 12/26/2013 2:03:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: BenLurkin

At the sound of the 7th Trump...


7 posted on 12/26/2013 2:04:09 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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If a group of people ever do take off for the stars they sure will be committed to it.


8 posted on 12/26/2013 2:06:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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We’re not going to become an interstellar race. Jesus, the Messiah of Israel, will be here first and set up his one-world government first.

OF COURSE ... Jesus himself is already interstellar as he created everything in the first place. At his Christmas season, it’s the time we remember who he is, and that he is coming back to set up his one-world government.

We must always remember who Jesus is, and that definitely relates to whether the human race will ever be interstellar.

Jesus is the ultimate God-Man and foremost interstellar traveler.

We know the real reason for Christmas and the Gospel Message that comes from it.

SO ... Merry Christmas to one and all ... including interstellar travelers ...

Matthew 1:18-25

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.

19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly.

20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”

22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying:

23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

24 Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife,

25 and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Jesus.

Luke 1:26-35

26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,

27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary.

28 And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”

29 But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was.

30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.

31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus.

32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.

33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”

34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”

35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

Luke 2:4-20

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,;

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child.

6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid.

10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people.

11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

12 And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.”

13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying:

14 “Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!”

15 So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.”

16 And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger.

17 Now when they had seen Him, they made widely known the saying which was told them concerning this Child.

18 And all those who heard it marveled at those things which were told them by the shepherds.

19 But Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart.

20 Then the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told them.

John 1:1-18

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 He was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.

12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.’ “

16 And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 2:07:11 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Why don’t we just stay here on earth and let liberals go interstellar? You know, like attach Nancy Pelosi to a Voyager 3 and 36 years from now she will cross the heliopause and enter interstellar space and it will have a gold record on it for all the aliens to read that says “Do not return”.


11 posted on 12/26/2013 2:08:46 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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Aviation photos from 1913. I would not go out on a limb predicting what we cannot accomplish in another hundred years.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 2:10:51 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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In 1895 Lord Kelvin, the President of the Royal Society of England said that “Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.”

Just eight years later he was proven wrong. And before he died in 1907 aircraft had become quite popular.

That said, while we may not see interstellar travel in our lifetimes it would not surprise one bit to wake up tomorrow with the news of a breakthrough in technology and then, maybe five or ten years from now, someone will be mass producing interstellar spaceships and we’ll be colonizing distant planets.

For the record, whatever planet Sarah Palin moves to is where I want to go!


14 posted on 12/26/2013 2:10:55 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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NO!

40 years in aerospace development and operations tell me that paper pushers would rather create empires to mask their incompetence, than make true progress, at an affordable price.

Unmanned exploration can be had at a tenth the cost of manned systems, in terms of time and money.


16 posted on 12/26/2013 2:18:14 PM PST by G Larry
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Glowbull Warming will kill all life first.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 2:18:57 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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A lot can change in a 100 years. If you were to go back in time to Dec 26, 1913, you would see a much different world. A world in which almost every modern convenience we know today did not exist. Air travel and even automobile travel was still in it's infancy and only available to the elite. A world in which heart disease and cancer was a death sentence, among other ailments that are easily contained today.

Certainly space travel was considered science fiction. Sending men to the moon in 1913 sounded about as implausible as sending men to a different galaxy today.

We are closer to interstellar travel then we think. Once we develop a drive system to get us there, most of the other necessary technologies have already been developed. Unless we find a way to break the light barrier however, these journeys will involve hundreds or even thousands of years, necessitating the ability to reproduce along the way. So women will need to be sent on these quests as well. It's possible that a man will take off from Earth and yet it will be his great-great-great-great-great grandson who actually concludes the mission and the original man will be long dead - his body being ejected into the vast blackness of space.

18 posted on 12/26/2013 2:20:09 PM PST by SamAdams76
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We will become an interstellar race when they figure out FTL travel and a method to but something in orbit inexpensively and safely.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 2:22:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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RE: “Think it is possible for humans to become an interstellar race?”

Absolutely yes.

But I think the time scale set by most people is science fiction.

I think it will take many thousands of years, perhaps ten thousand years, just for the first pioneers.

Plus, where are you going to go?

Proxima Centauri, our nearest star, is 4.24 light years away, and, today, we have no reason to believe there are any planets in that system that can reasonably house or support human life.

Even our own star system has limited possibilities.

The Earth, the Moon, Mars, maybe some asteroids.

I'm not sure it's even possible to construct or anchor a human shelter on, or inside, a asteroid because of ultra low gravity.

The main issue after we solve interstellar travel is, “Where do you live?”

If you have to spend your entire life living inside a cave, I don't think space travel will catch on with the masses.

I'm also skeptical about the financial reality of mining in space.

I think if we committed $1 trillion to R&D in materials science instead of space of travel, we could probably become modern day alchemists and literally construct the minerals that have great value.

25 posted on 12/26/2013 2:31:25 PM PST by zeestephen
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A week from Monday.

Do I win a prize?


27 posted on 12/26/2013 2:38:24 PM PST by Peter W. Kessler
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We can do it within a thousand years if we stop allowing leftists to take power around the world.


28 posted on 12/26/2013 2:39:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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It really helps to contemplate space travel from two points of view, that of space, and that of time.

Let’s start off with a short trip to our nearest star neighbor, around 4 light years away. That is, if you were traveling at the speed of light, a one way trip would take you four years. The speed of light is 670,616,629 mph.

If you were traveling at twice the speed of light, 2 years. Four times the speed of light, 1 year. Eight times the speed of light, six months. That would be 5,364,933,032 mph. Or 5.3 billion miles per hour.

Mind you, there is almost no chance of a planet capable of sustaining life within 100 light years.

Now let’s look at time.

The age of the universe is about 13.8 billion years. Earth has only been habitable for about 3.6 billion years. Of that time, it has had what passes for intelligent life for perhaps 100,000 years. And what we define as human intelligence for maybe 5,000 year. Having technology advanced enough to consider space travel less than a hundred years.

But planet Earth has “hit the reset button” several times, starting mostly from scratch. But this doesn’t mean that other habitable worlds have.

If you are generous, you might estimate the lifespan of an intelligent species as being anywhere from 500,000 to a million years.

If so, there could reasonably have been 12,000 cycles of intelligent species coming and going in the universe, with our current cycle just one of them. Vast cosmic empires might have existed and disappeared.

But at least judging from our galaxy, “natural disasters” like a supernova, can sterilize an entire sector of space, so unless its inhabitants had warning and faster than light travel, they would be just gone. And as fast as their home worlds would reboot, not a trace would be left behind.


29 posted on 12/26/2013 2:42:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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Keep imagining! Going to any stellar system, except the very closest, will take much longer than any human lifetime. Not many people would volunteer to go, knowing that they will die on the way and be ejected into space, and that their offspring will wind up the same way, and that 10 generations down the road a distant descendant will set foot on a distant planet.

And forget about warp drives or wormholes. They’re for science fiction writers or scientists who need more grant money.


32 posted on 12/26/2013 2:44:26 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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I’ll be interstellar when I get my resurrection body.


35 posted on 12/26/2013 3:08:34 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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