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The article includes comments about the Fuddy memorial services and funeral.
1 posted on 12/18/2013 7:01:10 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Where`s the black box?


2 posted on 12/18/2013 7:11:34 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: WhiskeyX
Poor Fuddy - the only one that managed to drown.


Kawasaki says he did not know about the death of Loretta Fuddy until he got back to land.

"It was devastating to say the least. Initially everyone said that everyone was accounted for and everyone was okay. So I couldn't understand how that could happen at that time...that she could have passed. 'Cause everyone seemed fine when they got out of the airplane."

3 posted on 12/18/2013 7:15:03 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: WhiskeyX; LucyT; justiceseeker93

Thanks. This is really the first article I’ve seen that gives any details.

If the wind and waves were as bad as he says, then it’s understandable that no one may have seen what happened to Fuddy. Which still leaves open the question of whether this could have been a Ron Brown thing.

What I find very strange is that they will stop looking for the plane at nightfall whether or not they have found it. Then the National Transportation Safety Board “will continue investigating the crash to try to determine a cause.” How on earth will they do that if they don’t bother to keep looking for the plane?

I find that the head of the NTSB is a Democrat, originally appointed by Bush and reappointed by Obama. She has military family connections but seems to have had a political career:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Hersman


5 posted on 12/18/2013 7:21:18 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: WhiskeyX

Luxembourg bank aacount does provide some comfort, I’d wager...?

No strolls through Fort Marcy Park, though, and steer clear of potato guns —wouldn’t want a spontaneous center-fuel tank detonation...


8 posted on 12/18/2013 7:50:15 PM PST by gaijin
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To: WhiskeyX
Cause everyone seemed fine when they got out of the airplane.

I have a major problem with that statement, coupled with this from here

The pilot reportedly observed eight-(8) people wearing life jackets floating in a field of debris at the approximate location where the plane struck the water. Initial news reports also stated that Ms. Fuddy failed to escape the passenger compartment of the plane, which would support the first and perhaps the most credible eyewitness account, as it came from a trained pilot circling the crash site. An initial statement by the Maui Fire Department also supports the report that Ms. Fuddy never made it out of the plane.

And if there's any doubt about that:

A statement was also made by Honolulu Fire Capt. Terry Seelig, who first reported that there was a fatality, according to KHON News.

That person remained in the fuselage of the plane. Not much details. Always a difficult situation when you can’t get everyone out, and unfortunately that was the case here.”

Major conflict in account; more analysis at the link. Either the pilot is an idiot, Capt. Seelig is an idiot, someone's lying...or journalism is suspect; I vote the latter. Of course, until the investigation is complete any one is a possibility and I'll let others with more time than I work on that...though I am highly suspicious that this may have been an intentional obfuscation of facts once it was realized the fatality was Fuddy to create another conspiratorial distraction (a 'crisis', if you will). The question is, 'by which side' (there are more than 2 here).

On that basis, from here

In the final moments of her life, Fuddy clung to the hand of her deputy, Keith Yamamoto, while floating in the water. Fuddy, who gained notoriety in 2011 for her role in making President Barack Obama's birth certificate public, held hands with Yamamoto as he tried to help her relax, said the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the ordeal.

Unless someone can show that that account was a total fabrication, I am sick & tired of being manupulated by those that cherry-pick facts and then write what can only be described as 'op-eds' (or worse, fiction).

As far as the nature of this particular post goes, Kawasaki's 'not a hero' comment is in response to this.

Without regard to all the conspiracy-theories on Fuddy's death, if you're to have an opinion on this post, you cannot rely on the linked story; you MUST watch the video report. I think the man deserves credit, but the investigation is far from complete.

27 posted on 12/19/2013 8:31:54 AM PST by logi_cal869
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Who called the news conference, and for what purpose?


34 posted on 12/19/2013 11:58:18 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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