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China steals a march on Russian arms
asia times ^

Posted on 12/17/2013 8:43:53 PM PST by traumer

In March 2013, Russian and Chinese media reported that Beijing was acquiring significant quantities of advanced military equipment from Russia. Among the multi-billion dollar systems to be bought by the Chinese military are six Lada-class attack submarines and 35 SU-35 fighter jets.

These acquisitions are significant because they are sophisticated systems and it has been more than a decade since China purchased any significant weapon systems from Moscow.

After making substantial purchases from Russia from the mid-1990s to the early-2000s, China began to reverse engineer weapons such as the SU-27 multi-role fighter, the NORINCO T-90 tank, and several components of its most advanced conventionally powered submarines. Occasionally, China legally purchased licensing rights to Russian systems. Achieving self-reliance in military technology has long been a major priority of China s defense policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: china; norinco; russia; su27; t90

1 posted on 12/17/2013 8:43:53 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer

Raise the import tariffs. Stop paying China to acquire arms.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 8:52:13 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: traumer

Everyone knows that China has for years, reversed engineered and copied all the tech they could get their hands on.

It only slightly bothers most Western nations, including Israel.

It doesn’t seem to bother the Russians at all.

You would think this nonsense would worry foreign powers outside of China more than it does.


3 posted on 12/17/2013 9:06:33 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: traumer

Oh, see the fire is sweepin’
Our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet
Mad bull lost its way


4 posted on 12/17/2013 9:07:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Carbonsteel

“It doesn’t seem to bother the Russians at all.

You would think this nonsense would worry foreign powers outside of China more than it does....”

I believe the thinking here is that at least with the initial purchase price or licensing fee you get something out of it. Otherwise, they just steal the damn thing anyway and you get nothing for it.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 9:12:41 PM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish...


6 posted on 12/17/2013 9:22:08 PM PST by traumer
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To: Carbonsteel

Oh, it bothers them. But buying new ones will save time and the Rooskies probably needed the money.


7 posted on 12/17/2013 9:41:50 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: DannyTN
Raise the import tariffs. Stop paying China to acquire arms.

Amen.

8 posted on 12/17/2013 10:13:16 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

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9 posted on 12/17/2013 10:58:07 PM PST by Therapsid (OH WELL)
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To: Carbonsteel
It doesn’t seem to bother the Russians at all.

Russia has a history of arming China while at the same time preparing for border war.

10 posted on 12/18/2013 2:33:58 AM PST by fso301
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To: DannyTN

“Raise the import tariffs.”

No can do. The US is a signatory to several sovereignty busting treaties including the Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. If we impose a tariff we get taken to an international court. When we lose it gives our trading partners permission to impose tariffs on anything they dammed well please until we recant. That’s why we have alcohol in gasoline. We were convicted of subsidizing farmers. So, they made producing alcohol (heavily subsidized) a national defense priority. (That’s allowed under the treaty.) Farmers have their subsidy and our trading partners can’t sue. You and I are stuck with inferior and infuriating fuel.

I’m pretty sure these treaties were entered into by internationalist elements that want to force the US government to do what they want and not what is in the US’s interest.


11 posted on 12/18/2013 3:33:17 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

What REALLY SUCKS is that they are buying all those weapons with OUR money, money spent on items that could be produced right here in America. If the unions wouldn’t have been so greedy, China would not be what it is today and we would not NEED their products.


12 posted on 12/18/2013 4:21:55 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov

“. If the unions wouldn’t have been so greedy”

I’m not a fan of unions, but they were only a contributor to offshoring. The big drivers were the EPA’s (at all levels, not just federal) tort laws, labor laws, including racial quotas with penalties for non-compliance, OSHA and the rabid anti-development greenies. (Just to name a few.)


13 posted on 12/18/2013 4:37:38 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks traumer.


14 posted on 12/18/2013 5:53:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Progov

Blame Nixon and Kissinger. If not for them, China could have been another broken former Soviet break-away craphole republic by now.


15 posted on 12/18/2013 7:50:52 AM PST by cunning_fish
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