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To: boatbums

And we have from the testimony of Matthew, Mark, Peter, John various things that they could not have witnessed, that are combined with things that are impossible.

Normally when a witness perjures, their testimony on all else is thrown out.


547 posted on 12/09/2013 3:50:18 PM PST by donmeaker
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To: donmeaker

various things that they could not have witnessed, that are combined with things that are impossible.
***And they also wrote down very mundane things that are not in dispute, such as the fact that Jesus was put to death for claiming equality with God. Even the enemies of Christ acknowledged that claim.

Normally when the enemies and friendly witnesses all agree on certain facts, those facts are not in dispute. But your irrational standard is simply intended to weed out anything to do with Christianity. Since no other historical figure will ever meet such a standard, I conclude that you’re simply irrational. You’re not credible. You’re willfully arrogant about historicity, not honest. Matthew 7:6 applies to you.


554 posted on 12/09/2013 4:03:36 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: donmeaker
And we have from the testimony of Matthew, Mark, Peter, John various things that they could not have witnessed, that are combined with things that are impossible. Normally when a witness perjures, their testimony on all else is thrown out.

Your error is in presuming that because someone testifies to seeing miracles or about things you reject as "not possible" that they must be lying. I haven't seen your answer as to why these people would have wanted to "invent their own religion" - as you put it - when all that it brought on them was persecution, ostracization and execution - sometimes in the most brutal ways. Guys like L. Ron Hubbard invented his own religion and it made him a millionaire. Mohammad got his followers to conquer, loot and pillage entire countries for him. Tell me what, other than actually witnessing the teachings of Jesus Christ, his many miracle and his resurrection, would have motivated these people? Many people die for what is a lie, but NO ONE dies for what they KNOW is a lie.

I get the impression from reading your responses to the many challenges thrown your way that you probably never did have a personal relationship with the living God and that you have closed your heart to any evidence that might shake your basis for your rejection of Christianity. I probably won't spend anymore time discussing this with you but I AM praying for you and mean you no disrespect or animosity. I know, without a doubt, that the truth WILL be found when we search for it with all our heart.

557 posted on 12/09/2013 6:46:14 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: donmeaker
And we have from the testimony of Matthew, Mark, Peter, John various things that they could not have witnessed, that are combined with things that are impossible.

That is NO way that you KNOW the things you so easily claim.

YOU are relying on someone elses testimony.

569 posted on 12/09/2013 7:24:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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