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To: IronJack

Decartes was the founder of French scepticism.

“I think, therefore I am!” was his second proposition.

The first proposition was “I doubt, therefore I think!”

If you don’t doubt, then you are not thinking. Faith is what happens when you don’t doubt.


37 posted on 12/04/2013 4:29:58 PM PST by donmeaker
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To: donmeaker
If you don’t doubt, then you are not thinking.

I do doubt ... that the universe "willed itself into existence", as suggested by Steven Hawking.

43 posted on 12/04/2013 4:48:18 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: donmeaker

“If you don’t doubt, then you are not thinking. Faith is what happens when you don’t doubt.”

No, that isn’t what faith is, at least not to Christians. Faith is believing in spite of room for doubt, not choosing to ignore doubts. Faith can be informed by reason, but isn’t based on reason alone, so doubts which may arise using a purely rational approach are not insurmountable obstacles to faith.

In fact, everyone, even those who believe they are purely rational, still put faith in some things. They just do not realize it, or refuse to admit it, so they can keep up their personal conceit of rationalism. So, since we all have faith, we obviously cannot use your definition of faith, or we would have to conclude that nobody can think.


50 posted on 12/04/2013 5:18:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: donmeaker

Ha, you are wrong again! I doubt and am skeptical of most everything - esp. my own work, but if you think faith is the absence of doubt then you have stopped way short in your analysis of it all.

You ever heard of Shannon’s Theory of Information? Prolly not, since it totally trumps evolution. The msm has done a damn good job of promoting evolution though since the saturation rate is nearly 100% of the US populace. Who doesn’t know something, anything about evolution.

So what about the theory of information ~ just something that gives meaning to sounds, symbols, icons, etc? You and I could not converse on FR without it obviously, but let’s go all the way back to language origins - did it too evolve out of nothing? Not if your willing to study all the research and analysis.

Let’s go even further back now, how about DNA? Does this symbolic intelligence not declare to the very depths of your soul that a very much higher intelligence had to create it for all living things to thrive and survive? To be always pared and mated to like kinds? Evolution is a lie, the evidence screams much more loudly for devolution, or the curse of sin whereby death and destruction entered this once perfect world.

Bottom line though I challenge you to actually read the Bible a little each day or even one special day a week and see if the words don’t strike at the core of your inner being.

Merry Christmas!!!


64 posted on 12/04/2013 6:12:18 PM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: donmeaker

According to Descartes, if you don’t doubt, you don’t think.

According to God, if you doubt Him, you lack Faith and shall not enter the kingdom of Heaven.

I doubt Descartes. I don’t doubt God.


114 posted on 12/05/2013 5:11:54 AM PST by IronJack
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To: donmeaker
If you don’t doubt, then you are not thinking.

I doubt this is true.

193 posted on 12/05/2013 6:07:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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