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Catching Fire: my review
11/30/2013 | LS

Posted on 11/30/2013 2:34:46 PM PST by LS

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To: raybbr

You may find this article interesting as regards Hunger Games being drawn as a Bush analogue: http://cnsnews.com/blog/lauren-thompson/propaganda-packed-hunger-games-dvd-written-frustration-bush-era


41 posted on 11/30/2013 3:33:14 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: raybbr
Just remember this book was written in 2009. From what I’ve read Collins wrote the books based on her reaction to GWB not Obama.

Oh, but out here, in the real world, people are saying it's all about Obama and his regime.
I believe they really feel that way.

chins up...smiles on...
42 posted on 11/30/2013 3:46:32 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: raybbr

Bush entertained himself by having American children kill other American children on TV?


43 posted on 11/30/2013 3:51:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Haddit

Bookmark


44 posted on 11/30/2013 3:54:01 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: LS

I saw the same bunch of trailers and I was similarly disaffected. Why do they do that? After so much preview fantasy I am about fantasied out. Not sure I want to hang around for the main event...


45 posted on 11/30/2013 3:58:04 PM PST by Toucan Dance
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To: LS

Can’t a movie just be a movie?


46 posted on 11/30/2013 4:12:48 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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It’s a movie. It’s not real.


47 posted on 11/30/2013 4:16:35 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: pingman

Loved it. Enjoy!


48 posted on 11/30/2013 5:03:05 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Travis McGee

It is a good time TM. I would watch it again.


49 posted on 11/30/2013 5:06:48 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Katya
The first book is actually not a bad read for a teenager these days.

Despite the dystopian setting it deals with subjects like loyalty, personal honor, self reliance, responsibility to others and self sacrifice.

It's too bad the first movie did not follow the book more closely. Although it was told from the girl (Katniss) perspective, she only survives because of the self sacrificing actions of the shrewd, humane and courageous baker's son (Peeta) who is her district counterpart

In the movie he's a wimp saved by the warrior-like Katniss, the book wasn't that way at all.

The subsequent books required too much suspension of disbelief for me, but my kids liked them and the new movie. I'll wait till its on TV

And Jennifer Lawrence although beautiful and talented is both too tall and too old to be a believable Katniss

50 posted on 11/30/2013 5:13:03 PM PST by Qatar-6
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To: InvisibleChurch

> It’s a movie. It’s not real.

I don’t know. Sounds like it could almost be real when it’s described like this:

“For those unfamiliar with the general story, a rebellion against the “Capital District,” or “CD,” has resulted in the feds crushing the “districts.” Each district is defined by what it produces-—food, lumber, fish, coal/gas, and so on. However, the Capital District doesn’t produce anything. It leeches off all the other districts, which have been brought into subjugation”


51 posted on 11/30/2013 5:18:31 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: sand88

Jennifer Lawrence is a remarkable young actress who has excelled in some pretty demanding roles. She has a great thing going. I just hope Hollywood doesn’t destroy her, as it destroys so many others. She seems unusually grounded so maybe the odds are in her favor.


52 posted on 11/30/2013 5:45:57 PM PST by sphinx
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To: LS
I have seen only The Hunger Games movie, not Catching Fire, but I have read all three books in the trilogy.

I got the same message that you did.

However it has worried me that, as sensationally popular as the books and movies have been, especially among young people, I have seen very little comparison with contemporary politics--a comparison that is STRIKING to me!

What gives?

"Oh, and did I mention that the primary reading audience of this was teenagers? It is just the message they need to be hearing right now. But the theatrical audience has crossed all boundaries, and the theater was as full of adults as teenagers and young people. (Analysis of ticket buyers confirms that the movie is reaching all age and demographic groups.) So if "Atlas Shrugged" the movie hasn't caught on as well as some of us would like, there is a film out there that speaks to the dangers of big government, the romance of resistance, and the value of standing up to 'the Man.' "

You're right, LS, of course. I just hope the public gets the message.

Note the tagline I've been using for some time now.

53 posted on 11/30/2013 5:58:02 PM PST by Savage Beast ("And may the odds be ever in your favor." IT CAN HAPPEN HERE!)
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To: jsanders2001

Rollerball in reverse but the same, sort of. (Good review, tho)


54 posted on 11/30/2013 6:02:37 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. I haven’t seen this show, and I appreciate the review.


55 posted on 11/30/2013 6:15:31 PM PST by zot
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To: LS
I don't think I've been to a movie in 15 years other than to take the kids, but since I have a teenage daughter, naturally we have seen Hunger Games and Catching Fire. (Pretty soon, I imagine, dad will be the LAST person she would go to a movie with, but she's not dating or driving yet, so I still have a few movie nights left ....).

Anyhow, it's a minor point, but as an old fan of historical costume epics, the bloodier the better, I was interested in how the Hunger Games folks would get a new twist on what is, essentially, a gladiator flick. I think they succeed remarkably well.

The mental state of the gladiators is of interest. All of them, the reluctant participants as well as the professionals, seem to accept the reality of the arena without question. It is an utterly pagan attitude, all the more effective for being underplayed. Of course most would rather not be there, but they are very matter of fact about their fates. And some of them, the careers, are preening professionals eager to fight, even though death is the overwhelmingly likely outcome.

When last in Rome, our guide at the Coliseum said off-handedly that only about five percent of the professional gladiators survived the arena. That's not unlike the odds in HG/CF. And the rewards for those who survived, won their freedom, and went into the bodyguard business could be substantial. Many of the survivors, in fact, volunteered to go back into the arena as free men. The mental state is interesting.

56 posted on 11/30/2013 6:17:29 PM PST by sphinx
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To: FrdmLvr
as a commentary on THIS government, the 0bama government? Or would they see it as a commentary on government in general?

At this stage of the game I'm not sure the difference is big enough to matter.

By way of example I give you Richard Nixon's EPA, Or GHW Bushes ADA.

57 posted on 11/30/2013 6:21:38 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: BenLurkin

“Bush entertained himself by having American children kill other American children on TV?”

Why ask me? Ask the author: http://cnsnews.com/blog/lauren-thompson/propaganda-packed-hunger-games-dvd-written-frustration-bush-era


58 posted on 11/30/2013 6:34:33 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: LS

See reply: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3096933/posts?page=41#41


59 posted on 11/30/2013 6:35:40 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: LS

I hope you are right. Some people just go where the money is. Look at DC/CD, or is it AC/DC? Mayhaps they all swing both ways.


60 posted on 11/30/2013 6:59:00 PM PST by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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