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“Anatomy” of Guns: Body Parts of a Complicated Killer (WW2 Mosins, Arisakas, etc.)
vocativ.com ^ | 11-14-13 | Vocativ Staff

Posted on 11/26/2013 5:50:17 PM PST by dynachrome

Years later, at age 24, I had forgotten all this. I stood in a field on a farm in the middle of nowhere and held a gun for the first time. It was a weathered Soviet rifle, manufactured in 1942, and it was heavy. I couldn’t believe I was about to press this rusty, old thing against my shoulder, let alone pull the trigger. The sound was unlike anything I’d ever heard. The concussive blast shook every molecule of my body, and more importantly, changed my whole perspective.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: arisakas; banglist; enfields; garands; mosins; weapons; worldwar2
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To: JoeProBono

Dat’s wat I’m talkin’ about! Only difference on mine is the sling is snugged up close, for shooting off-hand at 200 yards (at which I do NOT excel, but it’s still fun).


21 posted on 11/26/2013 6:24:37 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: dynachrome

It is a good, solid, accurate rifle. Still it can’t hold a candle to some of the German made 98s just around the turn of the century.

I had a 98-09 Argentine Mauser made by DWM in Berlin. It was still new in the cosmoline, unfired except by the factory and the original test target was still with it. The workmanship was simply unbelievable. Absolutely a work of art.


22 posted on 11/26/2013 6:27:46 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Sawdring

I went through a period while in grad school where I had to sell off nearly my whole collection.

I managed to hold onto one Carl Gustav Swedish Mauser made, oddly enough in 1909, same as my Argentine Mauser.


23 posted on 11/26/2013 6:32:10 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Years ago, I read an interesting report on bolt action battle rifles of WWII.

The best battle rifle was the .303 British Enfield.
The best hunting rifle was the M98 Mauser.
The best target rifle was the 1903 Springfield.
The strongest action for use was the Japanese Arasaka.

There was no mention of the Mosin, probably because it was a commie rifle.

I would love to have one of those Remington made Mosins that were made for Czarist Russia, but never got there as the revolution of 1917 stopped the flow.

I would also love to have one of those 1895 Winchester lever action rifles that were sent to Russia.

I would also love to have one of those Winchester .44 Rimfire rifles that were sent to Turkey and captured by the Russians at the battle of Plevna.

Too old, so little time.

Note on the Arisaka.
While I was shooting a Springfield 03A3 at the Red castle gun club outside Tulsa, OK, a man and his boy drove up. I noticed they had an Arisaka with the top handguard missing. He took a prone position, and with open sights proceeded to knock over the silhouette targets one after another. My respect for the Arisaka just went up.

24 posted on 11/26/2013 6:36:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Sawdring

The Swedish mausers are great.I have one dated 1900,and another dated 1901.Posibly the most accurate service rifle ever issued.


25 posted on 11/26/2013 6:37:33 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: humblegunner

Get yer carcass over here you cultist...


26 posted on 11/26/2013 6:39:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Jet Jaguar


27 posted on 11/26/2013 6:43:26 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: dynachrome

I just went and looked at it and yes it is marked M48A. Not sure what the “A” means. The reason it was so cheap is the numbers do not all match. The headspace had been checked and was right where it should be.

It is probably a little tight if anything as there is never even a hint of the cases near the base showing any sign of stretching.


28 posted on 11/26/2013 6:45:25 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker; TheOldLady

Ping for you and your little deer too.


29 posted on 11/26/2013 6:46:17 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I would love to find an Arisaka.


30 posted on 11/26/2013 6:50:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: yarddog; Farmer Dean

Mine is a Carl Gustav as well. All the numbers match on the bolt assembly, barrel, and magazine cover plate. The only thing that isn’t standard issue on it is the butt stock which I’m guessing was installed when it was imported in the fifties or sixties. It is made of rubber. I don’t know if they had bayonets, but if they did, mine is missing that as well.


31 posted on 11/26/2013 6:52:21 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

Yes the Swedish Mausers had bayonets. I don’t think I have ever seen a Swedish bayonet but I bet the ones made for the other Mausers of that era would fit.

Don’t know that for sure tho.


32 posted on 11/26/2013 6:55:13 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

The yugos had the M48, M48A and M48B, I think. Minor differences such as a stamped floorplate v. a milled floor plate.

Some good info here:

http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=391-1950-52-Model-48-Mauser-Rifle-(Mfg-by-Preduzece-Crvena-Zastava)


33 posted on 11/26/2013 6:55:14 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

Mine has a stamped floor plate and it is the cheapest looking thing on the gun. They are perfectly serviceable tho.

It is not smooth like a milled one and has stamping marks all around the perimeter of the part but like I said perfectly serviceable.


34 posted on 11/26/2013 6:59:52 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: dynachrome

Gots my Mosin, bayonet and a 440 (I think) sardine can of ammo for less than $150.


35 posted on 11/26/2013 7:06:35 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

440 (I think) sardine can

Yup. 440 per can. I got kind of a dirty look from the UPS guy when I ordered a crate, which comes with two cans in a wooden crate. 68 pounds it weighed, I think.


36 posted on 11/26/2013 7:09:27 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome
I got kind of a dirty look from the UPS guy when I ordered a crate

My UPS guy has put up with a lot of weighty items. I may have to take him in if the SHTF.

37 posted on 11/26/2013 7:20:52 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Lurker

I know many people love the Mosin. I have accidentally owned a couple in the past. One never made it out of the US. To me they look like what they are ~ peasant rifles.

They just don’t have the lines of a 03A3 or a 98 Mauser.


38 posted on 11/26/2013 8:36:50 PM PST by lrdg
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To: yarddog

I was thinking the same thing. That 98 Mauser qualifies as an antique, too!


39 posted on 11/26/2013 9:27:43 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My dad always said the Enfield was the fastest firing bolt action gun of the war.


40 posted on 11/26/2013 9:30:30 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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