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Little House on Unaka | November 19, 2013 | don-o

Posted on 11/19/2013 6:54:38 AM PST by don-o

I was taught that a preposition is a bad thing with which to end a sentence. I do not recall being taught about beginning a sentence with an adverb. I raise the matter, because recently I have heard an increasing use of the word “so” as the first word in a sentence in response to a question.

I first noticed this in Congressional hearings. Now I am hearing it on the radio. On NPR this morning there was a story about the relationship between commute to work times and political involvement. The interviewee spoke English well, with perhaps an Indian accent. In a five to eight minute piece, he began maybe five of his responses with “so”

My questions are:

1. Has anyone else noticed this?
2. Is it a new speech pattern?
3. How did it get started?


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To: don-o

So this seems to be a trend?


21 posted on 11/19/2013 7:17:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: don-o

I think “back in the day” has replaced “when I was young” for the boomers. They refuse to admit they are no longer young. OK right? :)


22 posted on 11/19/2013 7:19:53 AM PST by Ditter
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To: a fool in paradise
“So” also establishes what came before as settled “fact”

Actually, I hear it used most often as conversational lubrication from people who do not have the confidence to just say what they want to say. For example: "The weather is nice today" now becomes "Soooo, the weather is nice today". The people who use it seem uncomforatble that their assertion or conversational offering will be acceptable. It functions like a conversational tail between the legs as when a dog approaches a stranger and isn't sure if it will get patted or kicked.

23 posted on 11/19/2013 7:20:56 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Eva
It is meant to be a trick, that’s why it is annoying.

Yes! That is the crux of it. Clever use of the language to deceive needs to be a red flag. It's a more blatant form of subliminal advertising.

24 posted on 11/19/2013 7:21:14 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: Ditter

Now that I reflect, I should have used “once upon a time...”


25 posted on 11/19/2013 7:23:23 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: a fool in paradise
I very much appreciate your point and enjoy hearing how one might be more polite! My, don't we need more civility on this side of the Pacific?!

However, I do think you've happened upon another meaning of 'so', that being "the way things are".

I believe the the two uses are related in that my earlier "so" is a compact particle for "OK, things being as they may (from the previous discussion)" consider now what I'm about to say."

HF

26 posted on 11/19/2013 7:23:26 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: holden

Wouldn’t “very well..” serve the same purpose and acknowledge the value of what had been stated?


27 posted on 11/19/2013 7:25:49 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: don-o

I understand your point much better now. Thanks. Yes, that seems to break down and corrupt an otherwise honed use of English.

HF


28 posted on 11/19/2013 7:28:31 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: don-o

Yes, I have noticed it. Been hearing it for last several months on TV, Congressional hearings, etc. It is annoying and drives me nuts. I too, would like the answer to your questions.


29 posted on 11/19/2013 7:29:46 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: don-o

I agree that “very well” accomplishes much of the same, but for me, at least, “so” more clearly has an edge of “I’d like to move on.” (Isn’t that so? (I’m learning politeness.))

HF


30 posted on 11/19/2013 7:31:10 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: momtothree

My kids say literally, literally all the time! ;) It drives me nuts. A few of them don’t even know what the word means yet.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 7:33:31 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: deweyfrank
I too, would like the answer to your questions.

NPR also had a brief mention, this morning, of the newest word that the Oxford Dictionary has accepted. They reported that "selfie" was first used ten years ago (I believe they even had the source). I wonder if that might be the resource for tracking "so".

32 posted on 11/19/2013 7:34:30 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: don-o
So, buttons on your underwear.
33 posted on 11/19/2013 7:34:31 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: McGruff

Hush! The adults are talking here :)


34 posted on 11/19/2013 7:36:18 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: don-o
3. How did it get started?

Publick skreowels.

35 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:08 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Eva

When Churchill’s secretary criticized his ending sentences with prepositions, he testily replied,

“This is the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put!!”


36 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:12 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: don-o
"So..."

A needle pulling thread?

:)

37 posted on 11/19/2013 7:39:06 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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38 posted on 11/19/2013 7:40:14 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: don-o

In seriousness, though, you’re quite correct. We are becoming increasingly lax in our use of language. Someone else posted that this site used to be a place where you could hone communicative skills. Some people still challenge the intellect here.

Others just talk about ‘marshall law’. Sigh.


39 posted on 11/19/2013 7:41:45 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: don-o
A younger coworker was practicing a presentation in front of me and started every slide with "So..." I brought it to his attention and then gave him the skunk eye whenever he did it in the actual presentation. He broke the habit quickly - and sounded like a much more polished speaker.

The poor speaking habits of the illiterate, TV addled masses have a way of infecting everyone else. I have to lecture several times each month so I'm always vigilant of picking up new speech-crap in my own habits! It's surprising how easily it can happen.

40 posted on 11/19/2013 7:46:28 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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