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1 posted on 11/13/2013 2:22:34 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

It’s all about the selling of fantasy, of utopia, that is communism/socialism, liberalism. No more, no less. The breeding of unfocused discontent with the state of affairs as they now exist HOWEVER they might exist, and the pursuit of utopianism based upon someone’s or some group of someones’ vision(s) of the future. A future you are supposed to buy from them (and so many will, reflexively) even as they mangle to death and destruction each and every thing they try to do in the present.

I reco David Horowitz’ recent speech to/at the Heritage Foundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-y0MtreTb4

He gets off to a sort of slow start. Stay wit’ it.


2 posted on 11/13/2013 2:32:04 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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Author assumes somebody actually wants it to work.....

The objective is control and liberal indoctrination.

A broad education, leading to productivity and self sufficiency is NOT the goal!


3 posted on 11/13/2013 2:33:05 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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US education practices are tested rigorously with every class, every year.

The results are ignored.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 2:38:12 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To fix the education system, simply stop all forced redistribution of wealth. No more school taxes, no more student loans, no more government grants. Without subsidies, this mucked up system would die, and be replaced with a functioning one.


5 posted on 11/13/2013 2:50:18 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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You refer to Common Core, and it is interesting that Salman Khan respects Common Core, at least in the math curriculum, and is at pains to assure that his math teaching materials be a superset of Common Core math.
I am very impressed with Salman Khan, and like to think that he would not be praising CC if it were a bust.

And yet I know that many whom I also respect are contemptuous of CC.

What is your opinion?

6 posted on 11/13/2013 2:55:45 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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Folks keep thinking that the education system is about “educating.” It is not.
It is about 1: Union Power and 2: Child Indoctrination.
The US education system is doing exactly the Federales intend it do; if, by some chance, the school is actually educating your kids, it is doing it despite the US Department of Education...


7 posted on 11/13/2013 2:55:53 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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You could have 1000 students on the west side of a city compete against 1000 students on the east side.

Don't even bother with the south side.

8 posted on 11/13/2013 3:07:08 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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Testing in class inexpensively goes against the lobbying and funding of millions of dollars of “studies” with the outcome of only 20% of first time studies being replicable. Besides that when you do a study there are no winners. Can’t have kids winning these days. What they want is everyone to be equal. Trophies for all. Bringing down the standards so everyone can climb over the wall.


9 posted on 11/13/2013 3:10:16 PM PST by huldah1776
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We don't need testing. We know what works. It's being done right now in thousands of charter schools accross the country, many in some of the poorest neighborhoods of large cities. Denver Public Schools' test scores have been rising, but virtually all the increase has been in the charter schools.

So, if we know what works why don't the neighborhood District schools use that model? Plus, these reforms can be implemented without the massive tax increase the Education Establishment wanted. Why not? Answer: the teachers union contract won't allow it and they are not about to allow any change to their work rules and would allow it.

10 posted on 11/13/2013 3:28:22 PM PST by colorado tanker
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