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Did a hungover Secret Service agent accidentally shoot JFK?
The Globe and Mail ^ | Nov. 02 2013 | JOHN DOYLE

Posted on 11/03/2013 8:58:27 AM PST by rickmichaels

And so it begins – the plentiful coverage of the 50th anniversary of the assassination of U.S. president John F. Kennedy. The date itself is weeks away and there will be countless commemorative programs, specials and copious punditry on TV.

JFK: The Smoking Gun (Sunday, Discovery, 8 p.m.) is one of the most controversial of the bunch. Made for the tiny U.S. cable channel Reelz, it’s a two-hour docudrama based on the book of the same name by former Australian police detective Colin McLaren. He claims to have spent years on “the forensic cold-case investigation of JFK’s assassination” and says he believes he has found “the smoking gun” that killed the president. His conclusion is not the accepted story.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; dallas; dealeyplaza; jfk; jfkassassination; johnfkennedy; kennedy; kennedyassassination; mafia; smokinggun; ss; texas; usss
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To: PhilDragoo; Ditter; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; Velveeta; ...
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Ping.

Interesting comments at # 121 , # 154.

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161 posted on 11/03/2013 4:59:53 PM PST by LucyT (~ If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on. ~)
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To: Popman

You did not answer me. Did You See The Autopsy Photos ????


162 posted on 11/03/2013 5:10:41 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: cumbo78

Thanks for that info.


163 posted on 11/03/2013 5:12:08 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: berdie

later


164 posted on 11/03/2013 5:18:33 PM PST by berdie
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To: Ditter

As much as I believe LBJ was driven and no doubt would enjoy the opportunity to off JFK, I think Oswald was just as driven to impress his Soviet heroes and did what LBJ no doubt enjoyed having done. I don’t think LBJ had anything to do with Oswald but we just didn’t see much from LBJ about JFK. It was almost as if LBJ was saying, “Well, that’s done. Let’s get on with my being President.”


165 posted on 11/03/2013 5:20:41 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad
“Well that's done, let's get on with my being president”!>>>>>
Of course LBJ didn't say much about it!

That is exactly what I would say if I offed my next door neighbor so I could take his place as the president of our neighborhood committee.

LBJ wanted as little said about it as possible, doncha’ think?

166 posted on 11/03/2013 5:29:47 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Artcore

It’s simply not a conspiracy theory, it’s an examination of evidence.


167 posted on 11/03/2013 7:03:14 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: Timber Rattler

Right, the Connalies were in the “jump seats” set lower and a bit inside, not like normal car seats, I watched the special.

Donahue who wrote Mortal Error reasoned the single bullet could have worked but that the Warren Commission may well have gotten the sequence of the bullets wrong.

Makes sense and is not a “conspiracy theory” per se, real saucy with Mafiosos, CIA and Cubans or whomever.

This McLaren does a good job, may be right, I saw the special.


168 posted on 11/03/2013 7:28:19 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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For the ultimate in bizarro conspiracy theory, I recommend Judyth Vary Baker's Me and Lee, detailing her romance with Lee Harvey Oswald in the summer of 1963.

This sounds utterly crazy, but she has some hard evidence to back up the claim of where she was and when--she did work at the same place as Oswald in New Orleans. It's a very strange story.
169 posted on 11/03/2013 7:53:50 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: ladyjane; mfish13

ladyjane, you are 100% correct. I was there before the plexiglass was installed as well. In fact, that didn’t happen for a good while.

You are owed an apology.


170 posted on 11/03/2013 8:10:15 PM PST by berdie
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To: Nepeta

Thanks for that, I have heard about her. One more facet of the story to consider.


171 posted on 11/03/2013 8:13:32 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: BeadCounter
Thanks for that, I have heard about her. One more facet of the story to consider.

Please get back to me if you read the book. It's strange stuff, but she does have documentation. I wasn't sure what to make of her.
172 posted on 11/03/2013 8:22:58 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: CodeToad

I am very inclined to agree with you since this is more or less my assessment of the event.

Oswald was somewhat of a kook and I’m sure he was as surprised as anyone that he succeeded.

Not sure about the incompetence of the cops that day. He was probably able to blend in the crowd quite easily. He wasn’t covered in blood or anything.

I also think Ruby was crazy and mean as an outhouse rat...and idolized JFK. NOW...the cops escorting LHO that day kind of stood back when Ruby approached and didn’t seem to try to impede his death. Was that shock...or was that “take him out” acquiescence? It was a different time.


173 posted on 11/03/2013 8:34:30 PM PST by berdie
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To: laplata
“There were people in the CIA, Mob, etc. who were happy that he was killed.”

With the idea that the bums on the railroad bridge were CIA (Hunt?) and the Cuban angle to the assassination, I always wondered if the 18(?) minutes of silence on the Watergate Tapes was with regard to the assassination. Right before the “gap”, Nixon said something about how the Watergate break in might “bring up the whole Cuban thing”.

174 posted on 11/03/2013 8:34:49 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 21twelve

Interesting. But I think Cubans were involved in the Watergate break in.

Oswald did not act alone. It was an ambush.


175 posted on 11/03/2013 8:40:46 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: LucyT

“Hung over secret service agent” should be the new excuse for everything. I like it. Obama should use it for Benghazi.


176 posted on 11/03/2013 8:43:15 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: PLMerite
From tonight's TV show.

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177 posted on 11/03/2013 8:48:45 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Oatka
I like the theory that Kennedy was killed by mistake. It appeals to my sardonic side.

This has merit. As if the solution to the riddle is hiding in plain sight. When 5001 theories aren't enough, and none move any closer to the answer, maybe it's because they are working from the wrong premise.

178 posted on 11/03/2013 8:54:55 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: smoothsailing

That was a good special and if I didn’t say it here in my post, it sort of takes the conspiracy away of having the Mafia or whomever doing it.

The only thing that bothers me with the supposed accidental shooting by Agent Hickey would be it seems kind of a random accident to actually hit JFK in the back of the head. Maybe I’m wrong on that.

Good points of the documentary:

Former Senator Ralph Yarborough and a number of other witnesses smelled gunpowder from where they were, quite a bit away from the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building, let alone the 6th floor.

Also, it was common sense the authors suppose there were two different kinds of bullets in play, the narrower hole one from the Carcano that neatly passed through JFK and Connoly and the more explosive bullet that left fragments in JFK’s brain and as said basically exploded. Thought that made sense too.


179 posted on 11/03/2013 8:55:33 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: laplata

Yes - the “plumbers” included several Cubans. Cubans that Hunt had known/developed from the Bay of Pigs training that began under VP Nixon (Eisenhower). The Bay of Pigs was blown when Kennedy didn’t provide them support at the last minute (literaly) and left the Cubans stranded during the attack.

The Bay of Pigs fiasco was already known/done and gone by the time of Watergate, so I wonder if Nixon didn’t want the investigation to bring up OTHER things.

And of course the notion that Hunt was one of the bums in the rail yard.


180 posted on 11/03/2013 8:59:19 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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