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Did a hungover Secret Service agent accidentally shoot JFK?
The Globe and Mail ^ | Nov. 02 2013 | JOHN DOYLE

Posted on 11/03/2013 8:58:27 AM PST by rickmichaels

And so it begins – the plentiful coverage of the 50th anniversary of the assassination of U.S. president John F. Kennedy. The date itself is weeks away and there will be countless commemorative programs, specials and copious punditry on TV.

JFK: The Smoking Gun (Sunday, Discovery, 8 p.m.) is one of the most controversial of the bunch. Made for the tiny U.S. cable channel Reelz, it’s a two-hour docudrama based on the book of the same name by former Australian police detective Colin McLaren. He claims to have spent years on “the forensic cold-case investigation of JFK’s assassination” and says he believes he has found “the smoking gun” that killed the president. His conclusion is not the accepted story.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; dallas; dealeyplaza; jfk; jfkassassination; johnfkennedy; kennedy; kennedyassassination; mafia; smokinggun; ss; texas; usss
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Jim DiEugenio, Reclaiming Parkland, presents Barry Krusch dismissing the "found" cases in a challenge not accepted by Bugliosi.

Also, Barry Earnest found Vickie Adams and Sandra Styles and two corroborating witnesses that Oswald was not on the stairs.

Gil Jesus, George Michael Evica, John Armstrong and others have shown Oswald did not own the alleged murder weapon.

Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why, presents the facts suppressed including AEC Oak Ridge confirming DPD negative paraffin for Oswald cheek, yet positive for seven test shooters of the MC.

Robert Groden has tallied eighty-one who saw the occipitoparietal avulsive wound two to three inches in diameter not shown on the extant back of head photo.

Oswald was seen in ONI training at Nags Head in 1957 and in Dallas with David Phillips CIA Western Hemisphere chief summer of '63 Dallas (Fonzi, The Last Investigation). Veciana was the witness, part of Alpha 66 under Phillips.

Jim Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters presents a good overview. Dulles was fired but placed on the Commission; despite NSAM 263, it was reversed November 26 with NSAM 273.

I went to NYC with YAF under Dick Allen in '64 to draft Goldwater. Had JFK not been killed, Goldwater would have debated him for the presidency and we'd have avoided an LBJ presidency. Conservative ideas were not trusted.

Hathcock on pages 89-90 of Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza, by Craig Roberts:

According to my friend, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, the former senior instructor for the U.S. Marine Corps Sniper Instructor School at Quantico, Virginia, it could not be done as described by the FBI investigators. Gunny Hatchcock, now retired, is the most famous American military sniper in history. In Vietnam he was credited with 93 confirmed kills—and a total of over 300 actual kills counting those unconfirmed. He now conducts police SWAT team sniper schools across the country. When I called him to ask if he had seen the Zapruder film, he chuckled and cut me off. “Let me tell you what we did at Quantico,” he began. “We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified ‘marksman’ do it?”

Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation, page 69:

Thanks to the complicated technology of his silent-kill weapons, Mitch WerBell was central to the development of the talent with the capability to employ those weapons. Out of that talent came the “special teams” concept. Special teams are assassination teams.

It was the special team concept that the CIA used within its own bureaucratic structure—select individuals were stitched together into a tight, top-secret network outside their normal chain of command—to plan the Castro assassination attempts. But the first utilization of that concept had come in 1954 when, according to St. George, a deep-cover CIA team went off to Hanoi under Lt. Colonel Lucien Conein, one of WerBell’s “closest lifelong friends.” The Conein mission, code-named “Blackhawk,” was to harass and decimate the new Communist rulers of North Vietnam. Its orders included the “elimination of Vietminh cadres.” Subsequently, similar missions multiplied as CIA Clandestine Services sent out special teams with the authority to kill whenever “circumstances warranted.” There were, among others, the “White Star Training Mission” in Laos (James Files), “Operation Lodestone” in Northern Thailand, and “Study Project Minimax” in certain disaffected ethnic regions of Indonesia. Then, in the early Sixties, with the CIA’s employment of the hard-bitten hill tribesmen of North Burma, Laos and Southwestern China as “deep penetration” and “long-range reconnaissance” teams into Red China, came large-scale, top-secret U.S. intelligence operations involving unlimited license to kill. Mitch WerBell’s business did very well in those days, and Thai King Phumiphon personally hand carved a tiny rosewood Buddha for him.


121 posted on 11/03/2013 1:01:32 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the info, Phildragoo. The Warren Commission was a joke.


122 posted on 11/03/2013 1:12:11 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

Did you watch the video I posted....?

The right front of skull is blown out...clearly obvious...

Sorry that the actual video does not line up with you post...


123 posted on 11/03/2013 1:15:12 PM PST by Popman
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To: Dalberg-Acton

“Big diff in the profile of her nose in these two images and the one you posted:”

Facial muscles completely relax when you are dead.


124 posted on 11/03/2013 1:16:59 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: dfwgator

“Showed what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do.”

Thanks! That was the statement I had in the back of my mind and couldn’t seem to drag out of the cobwebs. A motivated Marine can do what seems to be magic.


125 posted on 11/03/2013 1:18:45 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Popman

Yes, I saw it. It is the right rear that is blown out. Go to Google Images and look at “JFK Autopsy photos”.


126 posted on 11/03/2013 1:19:30 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: GeronL

Whenever anyone claims cops are superheroes capable of super human feats, I just think of some situation like that where thousands of them surrounding a suspect could not find the guy and basically gave up. They locked down an entire city and still came up snake-eyes. That, and I am always reminded of threats in military training, “You wash out here and we’ll make you a cook or a cop!”


127 posted on 11/03/2013 1:22:10 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Popman

Please let me know what you think after you’ve seen the autopsy photos. There are lots of them.


128 posted on 11/03/2013 1:43:05 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: bgill

Well,

Oswald was working there. It was his best opportunity.


129 posted on 11/03/2013 1:58:19 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: CodeToad

Totally concur. Once you’ve seen it then do you realize
how small Dealy Plaza really is. Also everyone keeps harping
about 3 shots in 8?seconds........ well everyone forgets
that shot #1 starts the clock/ so its actually like
2 shots in a 8? sec. countdown.


130 posted on 11/03/2013 1:59:52 PM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: walkingdead

You are out of your mind. The bullet is smashed at the base, and deformed in the nose. As it slowed down from exiting the soft tissue of Kennedy (No bone struck) it slowed down and when it it hit Connaly’s bones, it was deformed. But at a slower speed you do not get the deformity if at higher speeds.


131 posted on 11/03/2013 2:00:43 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: Oatka

Maybe Jackie was the target. Why doesn’t anybody say that.


132 posted on 11/03/2013 2:02:22 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: Starstruck

Oswald was rated a “Marksman” but the Marines. That is hitting targets at 200 yards using open sites. In Dallas he had a scope ant the last shot was at 68 yards, more or less.


133 posted on 11/03/2013 2:04:49 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: walkingdead

How do you shoot from ground level(The storm sewer) and have a bullet go up and over a the side of the car???


134 posted on 11/03/2013 2:07:59 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: smoothsailing

Where else would it be??


135 posted on 11/03/2013 2:09:04 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: ladyjane

You did not stand at that window, so we know you are not telling the truth. That window is blocked by plexiglass and you can only stand at the window next to it, but you can see Oswald had a clear shot. Nice try, though.


136 posted on 11/03/2013 2:12:06 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: laplata

Straight line, easy shot. Go back to watching Kevin Costner.


137 posted on 11/03/2013 2:14:22 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: ExGeeEye

Oh God, how many times was it proven that Kennedy and Connaly were in a straight line. Quit watching Stone and Costner flicks.


138 posted on 11/03/2013 2:15:32 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

It’s a movie, not a documentary. Don’t fall for the crap there.


139 posted on 11/03/2013 2:16:19 PM PST by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: mfish13

Have you seen the autopsy photos?

Google Images “JFK Autopsy photos”.


140 posted on 11/03/2013 2:19:40 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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