Posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:10 AM PDT by massmike
A high school football coach in Texas was slapped with a formal bullying complaint after his team won 91-0 on Friday.
Aledo High School, the football team that put up a score you’d expect to see in a basketball game, has scored 77 points or more in their last four games. This is the first complaint that has been filed against head coach Tim Buchanan for his team’s blowout victories.
The dad of a player on the team that was blown out, Western Hills High School, claims Buchanan encouraged his players to bully their opponents by running up the score.
Buchanan is adamant that no bullying occurred in his team’s win. Not only did he pull his starters in the first quarter, his third string players were on the field when the clock ran out. After the first half was over, the officials began running a clock that didn’t stop unless a timeout or score occurred and in the fourth quarter, the officials used a continuous running clock, so the score could have reached triple digits.
Neither Buchanan or his team were happy over the victory. “We were just sitting there,” Buchanan said. “You’d have thought we got beat. I looked around and asked, ‘Is there anyone here that feels good?’” Buchanan says that while such victories aren’t anything he takes pleasure in, he can’t tell his kids to quit, either.
“I’m not gonna tell a kid that comes out here and practices six to seven hours a week trying to get ready for football games, ‘Hey, you can’t score a touchdown if you get in, you’re gonna have to take a knee,’ Buchanan said. “That may be the only touchdown that kid gets to score in his high school career.”
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So flip this thing around: an undefeated team loses a playoff slot tiebreaker with another undefeated team because of the PF/PA ratio. Do the parents then brag about how they didn't bully the other teams, or do they bitch about how they were robbed in the playoffs?
>>>True that...not bullying under ANY circumstances....even if it were classless running up the score....which it does not appear to be....it’s not bullying.
To say this cheapens the meaning of the term....<<<
Good point. What next, will a “father” accuse a coach whose team blows out his son’s team of “rape”?
If the game was on the schedule, I guess we’d have to call it “date rape.”
——funny thing is, I almost used the date rape/stranger rape analogy ....in my first post. Great minds I guess...:)
In SoCal HS baseball there is a “mercy” rule that if a team is getting blown out after five innings, game over. The competition is on to be sure, but it sometimes is merciful to those teams with lesser talent, or perhaps not coached to that level of play.
In soccer, the equivalent score would be something like 8-0 or so....however you want to try and measure it....so it wouldn’t have “seemed “as bad anyway.
Part of the socialist appeal of that sport....
He could have taken a page from the Vikequeens and Jim Marshall and run the wrong way to score a touchdown for the other team.
My son loves playing football: 11 YO and in his 4th season. However, the numerical odds are against him playing on Friday nights for Coppell:
3 Freshman teams
2 JV teams
I think you get my drift. However, I'm going to work with him on being a linebacker or defensive back. I expect him to be 6'2" and 175-190 by the end of his sophomore year.
He's the kind of kid coaches love to have on their team: he knows the game, loves playing it, and when he's fired up, OH MY!
He displayed that last Saturday, while blocking kids that were 30 lbs heavier. He was playing with a rage that was barely controlled (where that came from, I have no idea...acorn...tree...lol). When the coach pulled him out for a break, two other coaches said "put him back in! We need his fire!"
A few plays later, he delivered a block that sprung our HB for a 60 yard TD run.
The next series, an opposing player was ejected for a cheap shot...and they were leading by 30 points at the time.
“There’s no need to humiliate a team you are superior too,’
Why?
I had the exact same thought carried over to a place I worked and it cost me money.
I was an operator with a crew. All operators were paid a salary plus an incentive, a percent of what you produced each month.
Every operator was expected to train their crew to do the work.
Every month my crew was the #1 crew for production. My crew and I didn’t get anything extra for being #1 crew every month other than bragging rights we’re #1.
Other operators complained because they didn’t get the bragging rights.
Screw them, not my fault right?
Wrong.
Because I could train a crew better than they could, they always wanted someone I had trained on their crew to make it “fair”.
Because I couldn’t get the production every month because I had to train someone to do the job, I lost money every month.
Didn’t stop my crew from being #1 every month, I just didn’t beat them as bad.
Let the money come out of your pocket because you want to be “fair” and not hurt someone’s FEELINGS and see how you like it.
Totally bogus analogy. Meaningless. I mean, so flawed I dont’ even want to get started, becuase it would take ten minutes to explain to you the absurdity of your analogy.
If you’ve played all your kids, down to the benchwarming scrubs and they keep scoring, what do you do? Tell ‘em to take a knee for the last quarter or so? Bull!
PC has put the BULL in BULLYING!
Its sad but NOT a joke.
There had to be a FIRST case of taking someone to court for being a ‘bully’
The thought police are forming, they need court cases for precedent
This is a bad first step. If they have a sympathetic judge. If they have a competent judge he will throw it out of court.
Does anyone else here remember (almost to the day) that they started using the word ‘bully’ for everything bad they want to get rid of?
That’s a good point.
And another thing is individual stats. Now I know that most of these boys are not going on to college football, but the ones that are will need a good resume. They will need a stat sheet that will impress the scouts.
Yeah - I know carrying for 250 yards in the 91-0 blowout won’t impress nobody - but total stats in your HS career is essential.
The larger schools can far apart physically and Texas is a large area geographically. Making a pure 6A for district play would cause a lot of travel and potential overnighters for district games. JV district games, which are Thursday nights, would be almost impossible.
Some districts like Allen (population 85k+) have one Super 5A. Others like neighboring Frisco (population 135k+) have I think 5 4A schools. Dallas itself has moved to more 4A schools during the past decade.
I personally like the Frisco model. One kid in Allen gets a shot at starting QB. One valedictorian, one 1st chair trombone, etc. You get the point.
I didn't make that argument. That's a strawman. This is teaching young people sports, where we are trying to instill certain values, like sportsmanship. Embarrassing your opponent is not a value of sportsmanship. In math class, we are trying to teach math.
I am of the opinion that once you lead by 40ish points, start working on the 2nd string; substituting players in positions that they don’t normally play and run plays that have been giving your team trouble.
I would lay off the desperation plays like onside kicks and hail mary’s.
But, if you still beat them 91-0 ... tough.
Our classes are set up according to school populations and the organizing body known as the UIL tries to set up the districts based on geographic location although I question that at times if you look at some of the road trips some schools have to take for for district games including my own school. For example, class 5A takes on schools from about 2000 student population to the maximum enrollment. Class 4A, for which Aledo is a member takes on enrollments of around 1000 to 2000. Mind you this is just the high school populations.
Aledo is right outside Fort Worth and they are in a district wih mostly Fort Worth schools. And those of us who follow High School football here know the Fort Worth schools as well as many inner city schools are weak sauce now a days with their football programs. And the Fort Worth schools are REALLY weak sauce. Aledo is suburban school and most of your state championship programs at the higher levels are coming from suburban schools or communities close by to the populations centers. You can’t get good coaches and program builders into these inner city schools nowadays thanks to the headaches they have become with the students and administrators. Most coaches go there to get their feet wet, and when a better job opens up, they jump in a heartbeat.
Aldeo has state title hardware to their names as of recent and when playoffs start in a few weeks, we will find out if they are indeed this powerful machine or if their district is really that pitiful.
That's a good way to get your players hurt.
As you know, when you don’t play hard is when you can get hurt. Nobody wants that. There’s also something to be said for “if you don’t like it, then your defense needs to stop it.”
Taking knees is humiliating an opponent and running simply plays into the line is the best way to avoid running up a score. But you’re right, you can’t tell kids who work hard in practice not to play hard.
When Chris Christie started bustin' chops on his lib-dominated legislature and the unions, maybe?
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