All Mormon Category Featured On "Jeopardy" [What 'answers' to which Qs do you have?]

MidUtahRadio ^ | Oct. 18, 2013 | Kathy Farnsworth

[Colofornian]

The long-running game show “Jeopardy” featured an entire category on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints last night. The category was popular as it was the first one chosen in the round. The “answers” in the category included missionaries, the Tabernacle, Marion Romney, Joseph Smith and Deseret Industries. Every contestant who was asked a question got it right.

[reaganaut]

//We need to agree with Mormons where we can agree while holding firm to the truths we know in Scripture.//

Cannot agree on one damn thing with them. They lie, they promote liberal ideals while claiming to be conservative, they vote as a block for Mormons (no matter how liberal) and their theology is an insult to God and Jesus Christ. There is NOTHING I can agree with a Mormon on, because frankly they are lying to you about everything.

I fell for their lies once, I won’t do it again.

You put politics over Christ. I refuse to sell out my Lord and my God over earthly concerns. Do you even READ the Bible? Jesus said fear not those who can kill the body but those who send body and soul to Hell. You care about the body, not the soul..

[Normandy]

“Jesus is just a footnote in Mormonism.”

Reaganaut, this is simply not true. I don’t see how any objective observer could think such a thing.

Joseph Smith taught that ‘The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it’

The idea of anyone being considered superior to Christ is patently false.

[SoFloFreeper]

So you disagree with Mormons who are pro-life? Pretty sad.

[SoFloFreeper]

Yep, Mormons are better than Marxists.

What color is your sky? Orange?

[SoFloFreeper]

Your post does not take away from the accuracy of my statement.

[Elsie]

In fact, Muslims have been more consistent on homosexuality & abortion than Mormons!

Mormons & Muslims - next on Discovery

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“I Will Be a Second Mohammed”

In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”[1]

It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking—and troubling—parallels. Consider the following.

• Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

• Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

• Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.” In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters—but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to “correct” the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the “Inspired Version,” in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is “correcting” it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

• As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.

• Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. “I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book.”[3]

• Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet’s own superior revelation.

• Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered “infidels,” pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

• Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

• Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed’s followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, look to Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib, whom they consider Divinely appointed, as the rightful successor to Muhammad, and the first imam. (Ali was the cousin and son-in-law of the Islamic prophet Muhammad). Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith's followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith's own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

• Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4] In light of these parallels, perhaps Joseph Smith's claim to be a second Mohammed unwittingly became his most genuine prophecy of all.

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[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”

[2] John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on Islam, (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1998), pp.8–9. Eric Johnson, Joseph Smith & Muhammed, (El Cajon, CA: Mormonism Research Ministry, 1998), pp. 6–7.

[3] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.4, pp.461.

[4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408–409.

[Elsie]

You pick one quote from Joseph Smith, and suggest that we teach or believe that Jesus Christ is not the focus of our religion.

Norm, you seem to have SKIPPED all of the QUOTES in reply #94.

[Elsie]

The idea of anyone being considered superior to Christ is patently false.

Norm; you're sounding a LOT like Baghdad Bob here!

Will you respond to the QUOTES at #94?

[Elsie]

Your post does not take away from the accuracy of my statement.

Possibly; but it sure adds a LOT more information to the lurkers.

[SoFloFreeper]

More than “possibly”; rather “definitely”.

[Normandy]

Elsie, it’s absurd to think that Latter Day Saints teach or believe that any person, whether prophet, apostle or member, is superior to Jesus Christ.

[martiangohome]

“They are only slightly less dishonest than lawyers as a group.
Utah leads rhe nation in per capita fraud cases.”

That was your quote, btw, which is obviously false.

Oh, and to blame the fraud in Nevada on Mormons indicates a sincere ignorance of a world beyond the confines of the compound you live in.

FYI, Arizona is 4% Mormon...not exactly overwhelmed...

[Elsie]

Elsie, it’s absurd to think that Latter Day Saints teach or believe that any person, whether prophet, apostle or member, is superior to Jesus Christ.

Well; what about the QUOTES?

Are you failing to uphold what is contained in them?

[Elsie]

The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

The Official Scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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[Elsie]

Didja notice THIS line above??

The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein.

[reaganaut]

Norm, it is true, you just don’t see it. Mormonism is all about what the person does, after all they can do their works, their temple, their ‘worthiness’ them keeping the rules of the LDS church.

Joseph Smith is talked about more than Jesus. Mormonism is man centered, not Christ centered. Christ only comes in ‘after all you can do’.

And Smith taught HE was superior than Jesus.

Look at these quotes, Norm...who are they talking about? (I will post sources AFTER Norm responds).

His teachings “are the foundation of our faith. Everything we have is a lengthened shadow of [him].”
“I pray we may learn from his example, that we might incorporate into our lives the great principles which he so beautifully taught; that we ourselves might emulate him;...”
“I honor and revere [his] name... I delight to hear it; I love it. I love his doctrine... I am his witness.”
“He died for those he loved. He reigns in the realms above.”
“The more I learn of him, the more I love and revere him.”
“I look to him. I love him. I seek to follow him.”
“He not only gave us joy, happiness and opportunity here, but also a great hope in the life to come.”
“Today, this Sabbath day, in many thousands of congregations, perhaps as many as twenty-one thousand, in many areas of the earth, our people have sung or will sing the praises of [him].”
“Of noble seed, of heavenly birth, he came to bless the sons of earth.”
He was “a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.”
“Church members are interested in learning more about [him] because they love him and they love the gospel he brought forth.”
“How great indeed is our debt to him. ...Great is his glory,... We stand in reverence before him... Let us not forget him. Let not his memory be forgotten in the celebration of Christmas.”
“...and he shall stand in due time on the earth, in the flesh, and fulfill that to which he is appointed.”
“The light, provided to the world by [him], illuminates the confusion, clarifies the principles of the gospel, and helps lead men and women to their own eternal reward, if they will but endure to the end.”
The “work that has been carried out by President Young and his brethren [of the Twelve] has been in accordance with the plans, and designs, and Spirit, and instructions of [him].”

C’mon Norm, put your money where your mouth is.

[reaganaut]

Most LDS are not really pro-life. Abortion is ok if you pray about it.

[svcw]

Few people realize that.

[svcw]

mormonism is not pro-life
Before a woman would have an abortion there is list of questions - yes/no, then if you pray about it and the lds god says it ok, its ok.

[svcw]

Hardly making Jesus superior:

“It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men. If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670)

“He that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist.”
Brigham Young (Journal of Discourses, Vol 9 pg 312).

“If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation.”
(Mormon Doctrine, p. 670)

“There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God.” (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188)

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Makes one wonder why mormons call themselves Christians now (that is new by the way)

“With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p.