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The $7 billion warship..: US Navy's largest destroyer ever built gets ready to set sail
UK Daily Mail ^ | October 21, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 10/21/2013 6:04:10 AM PDT by C19fan

With its fearsome array of weapons, radar evading silhouette and $7billion price tag, this is one of America's most deadly - and expensive - warships ever. USS Zumwalt - the largest destroyer ever made - is just days away from leaving the specially constructed dry docks and entering the water. Equipped with guns capable of firing warheads 100 miles, stealth features, and engine able to generate enough power to run 78,000 homes, America is hoping it with guarantee its naval supremacy for decades to come.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: destroyer; navy; zumwalt
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To: whitedog57

That’s funny. I thought “CSS Merrimac” only the builder had the plans upside down when he built the hull section.


21 posted on 10/21/2013 6:40:08 AM PDT by T. Rustin Noone (the angel wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: C19fan

$7 billion, but not enough left over to buy a flag?


22 posted on 10/21/2013 6:40:13 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

Hussein will probably have them raise the flag with HIS ugly face in place of the stars; after all it is HIS military! /sarc


23 posted on 10/21/2013 6:43:38 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
subs and carriers no longer seem glamorous, I guess.

That would be unfortunate as they are the backbone of our Navy.
There has long been a battle between "black shoes" and "brown shoes" for control over the direction our Navy takes.
Having been a part of the canoe club for many years (and on the side of the brown shoes) I hope this excursion into overpriced weapons doesn't remain a trend.

Carriers and subs project our power. Everything else is support.
God help us to someday have a national leader who understands this.

24 posted on 10/21/2013 6:46:18 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: grobdriver

That’s what I was thinking. Doctrine was little ships take fire so big ships don’t. If you make invisible-expensive little ships, doctrine must change. I assume they thought this through.


25 posted on 10/21/2013 6:46:19 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: C19fan

The hull form reminds me a lot of the 36-knot post-WWI Italian light cruisers. Pronounced tumblehome and a wave-cutting bow. They were wet but stable and the fastest cruisers in the world at that time.


26 posted on 10/21/2013 6:46:35 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: jboot

One of those Italian destroyers was mentioned in the Guiness Book of World Records. The Bartolomeo Colleoni, IRRC. Could hit almost 40kts. But it was sunk by an Australian warship (HMAS Sydney, a cruiser?). BTW, isn’t this destroyer a de facto cruiser. Seeing as it can act independently from a task force and hit hard, it kind of seems like one.


27 posted on 10/21/2013 6:51:29 AM PDT by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: dangerdoc; grobdriver
You are both right, but these ships aren't destroyers in any traditional sense of the word. They are weapons platforms meant for power projection, not fleet defense. In that, they are closer to the "arsenal ships" discussed in the late 20th century, or for that matter to the Iowa-class BBs.

Whether these ships will be any use in future engagements is yet to be seen. But at $7 billion, I can guarantee that they will never pay for themselves.

28 posted on 10/21/2013 6:55:39 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Its been the Surface Navy’s R&D platform since the 90s...lots of new things from automated systems, electric drive to the Guns....it will be the 1st platform for the for the directed energy weapons. It is more a battleship than destroyer....that has been perfected for now with the Burke class. Navy was going to buy 30 of them....but its just too expensive so we continued to build DDG-51s and will build 3 of these, meaning one will always be available.


29 posted on 10/21/2013 6:56:51 AM PDT by The Klingon
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To: T. Rustin Noone
That’s funny. I thought “CSS Merrimac”

That would be CSS Virginia, built on the USS Merrimac.

30 posted on 10/21/2013 7:02:33 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: knarf
I conclude there is too much electronics and computers and not enough men

It goes back to the old argument, is it better to have a few high-tech weapons or a many low-tech weapons?

I don't know the answer to that one. But I will point out that Germany produced about 1000 Tiger Tanks. The Soviets produced about 50,000 T-34's. And we all know how that turned out.

31 posted on 10/21/2013 7:04:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: rjsimmon

You are absolutely correct. I knew that and posted anyway as I thought that there were few who will remember the Virginia but many who will remember the Merrimac. Thank you for the clarification.


32 posted on 10/21/2013 7:07:02 AM PDT by T. Rustin Noone (the angel wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: JoeProBono

The (prospective) captain’s name is James Kirk. Yep, serious.


33 posted on 10/21/2013 7:07:19 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: C19fan

Our current destroyers can fire up to 128 Tomahawk missiles - some improvement!


34 posted on 10/21/2013 7:24:24 AM PDT by impactplayer (The rich in the Bible)
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To: steelhead_trout
Heh, I was thinking of the Colleoni. She turned 36-plus knots on her power trials and she and her sisters were the fastest crusers in the world at the time. She was sunk in a running battle with HMAS Sydney and multiple allied vessels. There was nothing wrong with her design, or even her officers or crew. But along with the rest of the Regia Italia she was a victim of the ineptitude and indolence of the Italian Admiralty and the foolishness of Il Duce's policies.

It is hard to class the Zumwalt. Although she is called a destroyer, she is the size of a large cruiser. Her mission is more akin to a cruiser than that of a destroyer, but is even closer akin to the long-cancelled Arsenal Ship or even the late, lamented Iowas.

35 posted on 10/21/2013 7:27:43 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: impactplayer

The shape does remind me of the later Ironclads of the Confederacy—like the CSS Tenessee ot the CSS Albermarle. What’s old is new again—I guess. This ship seems to pack a good punch.


36 posted on 10/21/2013 7:38:05 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: whitedog57

I thought it looks like something from a James Bond flick. Neat though.


37 posted on 10/21/2013 7:51:02 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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To: jboot
They were wet but stable

Interesting tidbit from the Wikipedia entry on this vessel:
They have to ballast the ship in order to fire the guns, for stability!

38 posted on 10/21/2013 7:52:07 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: knarf

I helped build the Spruance class destroyers.

Unless things have changed, everything on a ship is pretty much squared off. Simple to build and a lot less wasted space.

I got to sit in one of the chairs in the control room. It was just a temporary chair while work was being done, didn’t want to give the navy a used chair, but it was the same type of chair.

Didn’t want to get up. Kind of a Lazy Boy feel.


39 posted on 10/21/2013 8:34:29 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: knarf

Looks like there aren’t enough spare bodies in the crew. Many of the jobs I did aboard ship had twice as many people present as were actually needed to to the job as “spares”, to replace casualties and fight fires and flooding.

I could manually operate the dead reckoning tracer (DRT) in the combat information center (CIC), with the electronic “bug” not working, and calculate closest point of approach, range and bearing info on surface contacts.

20 year old eyes looking through properly collimated binoculars could see and estimate range on targets out to the horizon. One of our lookouts could see masthead and range lights at night out to where part of the ship was over the edge of the horizon. Sometimes he picked them up before the radar operator was reporting them.

What does this new vessel do without GPS? (After the Chinese knock ours out).


40 posted on 10/21/2013 11:41:03 AM PDT by CPO retired
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