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How To Read This Year's Rock Hall Nominations
NPR ^ | October 19, 2013 8:00 AM | Chris Molanphy

Posted on 10/19/2013 4:57:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise

If you look beyond the headlines that greeted this week's announcement of 16 nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame — Nirvana, a foregone conclusion for first-round induction; KISS, long snubbed, getting its second shot at glory — you might notice that two Rock Hall records were quietly set. They tell you all you need to know about how this mysterious institution works.

The first involves '70s–'80s disco/R&B pioneer Chic. With this nomination, its eighth, Chic holds the current record for the most nominations for the Rock Hall without getting inducted. (The all-time record is still held by Solomon Burke, who went un-inducted nine times before finally getting in on his 10th nomination in 2001.) So officially, Chic co-founder and sole survivor Nile Rodgers is now the Susan Lucci of the Rock Hall.

The other record concerns the unusually large number of first-time nominees on this year's list. Artists become eligible for the Hall 25 years after the release of their first recording. For example, Nirvana just became eligible this year, a quarter-century after issuing the 1988 single "Love Buzz." Half of this year's list are first-timers, which in and of itself is not a record. There have been more in other years; in the Hall's first few years (starting in 1986), obviously most of the nominees were first-timers by default.

No, the record is this — seven of this year's eight debutantes have been eligible for the Hall for at least half a decade: Peter Gabriel, Hall and Oates, Link Wray, the Replacements, Linda Ronstadt, Yes and the Zombies. (Nirvana is this year's only debutante to get the nod in its first year of eligibility.)

If we omit the Replacements, who have "only" had to wait since 2006, the other half-dozen debutantes have all been eligible for more than a decade. (That means they released their first record at least 35 years ago.) This is unprecedented — the largest number of first-time nominees in a single year who have been Hall-eligible for more than 10 years. Let's call these six acts the Decade Debutantes.

How these two statistical anomalies came to pass reveals something about the two halves of the Rock Hall process: the opaque Nominating Committee, and the more mass-appeal (for good and ill) Voting Committee. Each has its biases, which leads to the sorts of snubs that drive music fans batty.

The Nominating Committee comprises about three dozen critics, editors, managers and a handful of stalwart musicians (Robbie Robertson, "Little" Steven Van Zandt and Lenny Kaye most prominently). They meet annually in a private cabal to debate and deliver the shortlist of nominees. They then open it up to the Voting Committee, which comprises several hundred voters. It's a more eclectic list — some critics and editors are included, but like the Actors' Branch that dominates Oscar voting, the Rock Hall voting body is overwhelmingly composed of music-makers, including virtually everyone who's been inducted in the Hall's three-decade history.

If you are a Chic fan looking to assign blame for its continued non-induction, the Nominating Committee actually deserves your thanks, and the Voting Committee, your scorn. Seven times, the small cabal has put Rodgers & co. before the voters, and seven times the voters have blown them off.

This reveals how both groups' collective minds work. With their music-nerd bona fides and known advocacy for R&B-based music, it's easier for the nominators to appreciate Chic — purveyors of "Le Freak" and "Good Times," inspiration for "Rapper's Delight," producers of Diana Ross, David Bowie, Debbie Harry and Madonna — than the voters, who are a closer proxy for the average rock fan. For them, the name "Chic" either draws a blank or, worse, evokes studio slickness and leisure suits. One imagines Rodgers' prominence this year on Daft Punk's smash "Get Lucky" might make this the year enough voters consider Chic worthy.

But let's be honest: the non-induction of Chic doesn't provoke much fan ire (save me and my poptimist-nerd friends). What makes your average rock fan really furious are the acts that never make it out of committee. This year's six Decade Debutantes are prime examples — until this year, they were all snubbed by the Nominating Committee and weren't offered to the wider Rock Hall voting body at all.

Last year's biggest headline-grabber was the most infamous Decade Debutante ever, the band Rush, who after years of fan resentment and 14 years of Hall eligibility was finally nominated by the cabal for the first time. The voters then inducted Rush instantly, on its very first ballot — suggesting the band would have been a shoo-in if the Hall had put them up a decade sooner.

This tells you something about the Nominators' biases. Infamously, they have issues with particular rock subgenres and are reluctant to reward, say, progressive rock or certain strains of metal and postpunk. This explains how, say, KISS went until 2009 without so much as a nomination, despite being eligible as far back as 1999; this year is only KISS' second time at the nomination rodeo.

Fans of Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley should count their blessings — KISS didn't wait as long for a nod as progressive-rock titan Yes, which this year finally earned a nod after 19 years of eligibility — an even longer wait than Rush's. Or consider poor Link Wray, power-chord pioneer, whose classic "Rumble" came out in 1958; he's been eligible since before the Hall of Fame launched, and he's been dead eight years.

Why is the Nominating Committee only now clearing its cupboard of snubbed acts? The cynic might say they're scraping the barrel of Boomer-friendly acts; with the likes of the Beatles and Eric Clapton long ago inducted, acts like Ronstadt or Wray start looking more attractive to them. The more optimistic assessment is that the Committee, which has grown somewhat in size and diversity over the last few years, is becoming more open-minded and sensitive to perceptions of the Hall as hidebound. If Hall and Oates or the Replacements finally warrant nods, the likes of the Monkees or the Smiths start to seem plausible.

In any case, for the Class of 2014, the Nominating Committee is now out of the way, and we're left only with the voters — who, let's not forget, are mostly insiders. (Since last year, the Hall has opened up voting to ordinary fans, but these votes result in a single "fan ballot" that is weighed against the hundreds of official voters' picks.)

How will the voters' biases — skewed toward more brand-name, mass-appeal acts — play out? Is Yes this year's Rush, with a silent majority of supporters who've been waiting decades for this nod? Have recent comeback tours by The Mats and Peter Gabriel rekindled appreciation, or are they still too marginal? Will the Hall's pattern of one rap act per year persist, and will that benefit the less threatening LL Cool J over N.W.A? Does Linda Ronstadt's recent claim of disinterest in the Rock Hall hurt her with voters — or, like the Sex Pistols, does she sound like a badass and get in anyway?

If I were a betting man, I'd lay odds on some combination of Nirvana, Yes, Ronstadt, Gabriel, Deep Purple, LL and, hopefully, Chic taking the podium early next year. But the ways of Rock Hall voters have been inscrutable before. Just ask Solomon Burke.


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: discohalloffame; rnrhof; rockandroll; rockmusic
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To: Revolting cat!
I’m reminded of a sign I once saw driving Highway 17 to Santa Cruz, directing drivers to THE Artichoke Hall of Fame. It’s as importaint.

Is that near the "House of Mud" or the World's Second Largest Ball of Twine?

21 posted on 10/19/2013 5:26:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!

There is a telephone museum in my town that is “in danger of being closed”. Odd when you consider just how much cellphone technology alone has changed in the past 20 years.


22 posted on 10/19/2013 5:28:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

No ELO is also a travesty.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 5:31:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!
"It might've made Artie choke, but it's not gonna make Stymie choke."



24 posted on 10/19/2013 5:31:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

Stymie Beard is more deserving of a Hall of Fame than just about anyone.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 5:45:20 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: a fool in paradise
The fact that this guy is NOT in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, nor was he even mentioned in Rolling Stone Magazine's list of top 100 Guitarist of all time tells me all I need to know about the R&R Hall of Fame and why I haven't visited the museum, nor read the publication, in about 20 years ...


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be renamed the R&B/Hip Hop/Funk/RAP/Politically Correct Hall of Fame.
26 posted on 10/19/2013 6:13:51 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: a fool in paradise

Any Rock & Roll Hall of Fame that doesn’t include Robin Trower is a fraud.


27 posted on 10/19/2013 6:25:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed


28 posted on 10/19/2013 6:31:59 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: a fool in paradise
The #1 reason why Jan Werner's "museum" is a fraud and facetious based on one riff alone



I mean come on (And they had plenty of other successes too, but that riff itself Jan Lol, what a putz)
29 posted on 10/19/2013 6:43:28 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Sorry, meant to say “facetious legacy...”


30 posted on 10/19/2013 6:44:48 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Rock and Roll is a rip off of negro church music. An obscene looting of a cultural expression."

Ralph Ellison

31 posted on 10/19/2013 6:55:34 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Stepan12
Rock and Roll is a rip off of negro church music. An obscene looting of a cultural expression." Ralph Ellison

Ellison is just P.O'ed that the Congressional Black Caucus isn't earning a royalty off of every R&R recording.

You can rest assured that he doesn't demand the same from the R&B genre...

32 posted on 10/19/2013 7:04:02 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: dfwgator

I also wonder if The Guess Who will ever get in...


33 posted on 10/19/2013 7:19:21 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: a fool in paradise

While the very idea of a Rock and roll Hall of Fame is ridiculous to begin with, there is something called the Rockabilly Hall of Fame, that at the very least will introduce you to some interesting artists who never met the requirements of the corrupt recording industry machine for big stardom and often enough put to shame those who have.


34 posted on 10/19/2013 7:23:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Windflier

Couldn’t agree more, Windflier, without TROWER it’s a Hall of Shame. But maybe as someone mentioned b4 Actually NOT being in this ORG is a good thing since they seem to have jumped the shark long ago, Madonna, oh crap


35 posted on 10/19/2013 8:44:45 PM PDT by corbe (mystified)
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To: DemforBush

At least Ronnie James Dio. Got started in doo-wop (Vegas Kings), and wound up fronting for Rainbow and Black Sabbath.


36 posted on 10/19/2013 8:51:57 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: corbe
maybe as someone mentioned b4 Actually NOT being in this ORG is a good thing since they seem to have jumped the shark long ago

I'm sure Robin doesn't lose a moment's rest over it. I saw some recent interviews of him and he's in fine spirits. And he plays even better than ever.

37 posted on 10/19/2013 8:57:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: a fool in paradise

When this guy Gets in I be impressed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACEJEF_Oboo&list=PLA58B5126EE59C0C9


38 posted on 10/19/2013 10:00:43 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Don't like Gramnesty? Support Lee Bright www.brightforsenate.com/)
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To: softwarecreator

That nails it.

I’m in this thread for the FReeper commentary, really haven’t given a #2 about the RRHOF in a long time.


39 posted on 10/20/2013 3:24:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Windflier

AMEN!!!


40 posted on 10/20/2013 5:24:39 AM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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