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2014 Cadillac ELR: GM's $76K bet: GM commits to plug-in vehicles, but at what price?
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 15, 2013 | Robert Duffer

Posted on 10/16/2013 10:26:24 AM PDT by jazusamo

The Cadillac ELR extended range electric luxury coupe will go on sale in January for $75,995, including destination charges.

Derived from the 2009 Converj concept car, the ELR will have a driving range of more 300 miles between the dual fuel powertrain of an electric motor and a gas generator. The electric-only range is 35 miles, General Motors says, but once the battery loses power the 1.4-liter gas generator takes over to power the electric motor.

If this sounds like the Chevy Volt, the other plug-in hybrid (PHEV) or extended range electric (EREV) produced by GM, it’s because the ELR is being produced in the same Detroit factory and on the same platform as the Chevy Volt.

(Excerpt) Read more at cars.chicagotribune.com ...


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To: jazusamo

Don’t worry!

Obama will be buying one for every GS-15 in the country, at taxpayer expense of course.


41 posted on 10/16/2013 1:17:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ouderkirk

Electric vehicles grossly overload our already overloaded power grid, and for no valid reason at all.

They are an unacceptable waste of mineral resources, since they force the owner to purchase an extra vehicle, or leave their family in extreme danger if they have need to evacuate due to natural or man made disaster.

Electric vehicles should carry a 300% luxury tax to offset their negatives.


42 posted on 10/16/2013 1:23:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jazusamo

Or you can buy the Lexus version of the Toyota Prius for about half of that price.

The total “installed volume” of Toyota’s hybrid products is impressive.

GM came to the hybrid party late.


43 posted on 10/16/2013 1:26:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

GM’s vehicles are not true hybrids, since they do not recover kinetic energy when coasting or stopping.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 1:39:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

GM’s vehicles are not true hybrids, since they do not recove”r kinetic energy when coasting or stopping.”

Are Toyota’s true hybrids, by your definition?

You are the engineer, not me. I’m very much results oriented.

I’m also impressed by superior engineering, tested by results.

The fact that Audi has won the 24 Hours of LeMans, about 11 of the last 13 years, using gasoline, diesel and lately hybrid impresses me.

The company that may beat them is Toyota, I believe, because hybrid is the latest technology being used.

I drive an Audi. For high economy vehicles which I like include the VW/Audi diesels, and Toyota Hybrids.


45 posted on 10/16/2013 1:45:02 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Toyota does recover energy.


46 posted on 10/16/2013 1:50:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ouderkirk
I have no objection in principle to an electric vehicle.

Neither do I. Were it not for all the tax money being used to support them, I'd be very interested in the competition to come up with a successful one.

47 posted on 10/16/2013 2:39:27 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: Snickering Hound
Here's a Cimarron with an Obama sticker ...


48 posted on 10/16/2013 3:31:25 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Don Corleone

No doubt that the thing is pricey, and I was not referring to this POS in particular.

I like the idea of an electric vehicle, for driving to work, grocery getter, and general short distance shuttle. It would be nice to just unplug the thing, jump in and head off to where-ever locally and not have to stop for fuel while I’m out. 200 miles would do it for me. It needs to be price competitive with my “dinosaur” powered vehicles without taxpayer subsidy.

The problem for all of this stuff is the rare earth minerals and all of the processing needed to get them to usable purity. Nobody every speaks of the energy used in the refining of these ores. Neodymium, cobalt, and other heavy metals require significant energy consumptive processing.

I still need my “dinosaur” powered SUV/Truck to tow my “dinosaur” powered boat and am not going to give them up in this lifetime.


49 posted on 10/16/2013 5:19:38 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: nascarnation

No shocker here. The worst part of it is that there’s no motor noise to distract from the road noise and that it comes overwhelmingly from the rear.

Frankly, if I had an electric car I’d find the ‘electric motor noise’ a wanted feature; none of that in the Volt.

Spendy, noisy and huge blind spots.


50 posted on 10/16/2013 9:11:25 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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