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State secession from a more left wing perspective. Interesting point of view, but note that again the author doesn't talk about the price tag.

So I ask again: what's the butcher's bill going to be should a state or group of states decide to secede from the union? What is an "acceptable" number of dead Americans once dear leader or his successor forcibly tries to put down what they'll characterize as an insurrection?

1 posted on 10/14/2013 11:55:48 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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Secession and Anti-Secession Ping and Prayer list
Stories and commentary both for and against secession.

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2 posted on 10/14/2013 11:57:15 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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There are no "peak oil" nor "global warming" problems.

Green River Formation has 3 trillion barrels of oil and the Sun has a declining sunspot activity.

5 posted on 10/14/2013 12:00:58 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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NO !!

Divorce from Washington is less cumbersome and (I'm guessing) easier and faster.

I have NO clue if we can do that ... but THAT is the simplest solution.

We can keep the OFFICES, executive, judicial and legislative ... but we don't have to keep the people.

Any Constitutional scholars out there ?

6 posted on 10/14/2013 12:02:00 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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One of the stated goals of the Communist Party was to disrupt the federal and State governments of the United States to such an extent the American people would welcome Communism and the secession of the U.S. States. Any person advocating secession is therefore giving aid and comfort to the Communists who seek to use secession as a tool for destroying the Republic and the Constitution. There ared numerous means for restoring the Constitutional rule of law without destroying the Republic and the Constitution with secession and reckless talk about secession.


7 posted on 10/14/2013 12:02:56 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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“...On both the right and the left,...” Hell the left IS the problem, with peeps in the GOP.


8 posted on 10/14/2013 12:04:54 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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I'm now a vigorous supporter of secession.The Maoists of this nation (Osama Obama’s pals and supporters) are absolutely irredeemable.So let them have a nation where *everyone* gets an EBT card...where *every* Mexican gets automatic citizenship....where *everyone*,well you get the picture.Let the red states secede and form a truly “more prefect union”.They get Detroit,we get Omaha.They get Trayvon Martin,we get Dr Ben Carson.They get the trust funders and the welfare parasites,we get the middle class.
10 posted on 10/14/2013 12:09:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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A few years ago, Mr. Igor Panarin brought up the coming breakup of the US.

Some previous: 1, 2, 3...

People can also check out Mr. Garreau''s work.


11 posted on 10/14/2013 12:09:46 PM PDT by Theoria
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Simply more whipping up for fear, uncertainty and doubt.

New World Order needs the debt ceiling lifted again.

NWO will continue getting their way until the sheeple identify (admit) NWO as the problem, then figure out a way to defeat NWO and then do it.


12 posted on 10/14/2013 12:10:17 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Wall off California, and the Democrat-run bastions like the Northeast and Midwest Inner-cities. Force them to go it alone.

When the supplies of Food, gas, water, and electricity from America’s Red Counties stops, it will be like World War Z in those places.

Enemy Defeats Self
Civil War ends
Let Freedom Ring


18 posted on 10/14/2013 12:13:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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well, when good Christian men and woman were the influential group (picture andy taylor, ozzie nelson and ward cleaver), this was the greatest country in history. but we allowed them to take it from us, so now, instead of ozzie, any and ward, we now have adam sandler, seth rogen, and andy Samberg.

they ruin everything they touch. jpk


19 posted on 10/14/2013 12:14:24 PM PDT by willywill
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Before it gets to that I see the governors getting together, between them figuring out they have a set, and realizing that together THEY and their legislature can decide the fate of Washington.

A Con/Con will happen before this IMHO, the real test will be if the entrenched bureaucracy will submit to States rule or order troops mobilized. Be interesting to see how well an embargo against a state would play out in reality, United we stand, Divided we fall will be on the minds of a lot of state politicians if that ever happens...


21 posted on 10/14/2013 12:20:26 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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I had a feeling this was actually leftist pap. Was confirmed here:

Mounting costs to deal with the superstorms, derechos and other weather disasters that will become both more frequent and more damaging due to runaway climate change.

Guess the fact that even a barking moonbat can see DC is broken is something, though.

22 posted on 10/14/2013 12:23:47 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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1. Was going to comment on the article itself but as I got into it I realized how stupid the writer is and decided not to bother.

2. I predict there will be no secessions.


26 posted on 10/14/2013 12:31:52 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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Most of this can be handled with the existing tenth amendment, and repealing the 17th.


28 posted on 10/14/2013 12:35:01 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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this is false flag BS.

the weather underground/ bill ayers wanted to divide the usa into four “managable” parts with 30 million (obamacare) targeted for extermination.


39 posted on 10/14/2013 1:45:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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This whole problem can be much more easily solved with nothing more than tar, feathers, rope, and a hanging party.

Hang 'em all, hang 'em high. Every filthy last one of 'em.

Then we hold NEW elections and start over. This time those running for office WILL KNOW the price of their becoming corrupt and failing to serve WE THE PEOPLE.

I'll bet the results will much different second time around.

45 posted on 10/14/2013 2:50:39 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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What does secession have to do with death and war?


52 posted on 10/14/2013 3:51:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The Democrat Party Plantation needs slaves to survive. They will not go quietly.


60 posted on 10/14/2013 5:14:00 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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"Climate Chaos — Mounting costs to deal with the superstorms, derechos and other weather disasters that will become both more frequent and more damaging due to runaway climate change will stretch federal, state and local budgets to their breaking points."

Damn....and he was on such a roll, right up until that point.

63 posted on 10/14/2013 11:27:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I think the model to look at is the USSR. We woke up one morning at it was gone. The centralized power went away and power went back to satellite countries. But prior to this they were starting to ignore the USSR anyway.

What was preferable, the centralize power or the autonomy of the satellite countries?

NO ONE WANTED TO PUT THE USSR BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, why?


69 posted on 10/16/2013 2:32:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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