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Where's Craig Kimbrel? Not in the game (Oct. Baseball Live Thread)
ESPN ^ | October 8, 2013 | David Schoenfield

Posted on 10/08/2013 10:04:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT

Craig Kimbrel is supposedly the heir to Mariano Rivera. In his postseason career as closer, Rivera recorded 27 appearances of 2+ innings.

Uribe bunted two balls foul, ... and then tomahawked a high fastball from David Carpenter into left-field stands for a shocking two-run homer ....

Note that I wrote "David Carpenter" and not "Craig Kimbrel."

The Braves had to win this game. Lose, and they go home. Somehow they lost -- in the late innings, no less -- without using the most dominant relief pitcher in the game.

The sad thing is, Gonzalez apparently didn't even think of using Kimbrel for two innings. "I think six outs isn't something we were even talking about in the dugout," he said after the game.

But what’s the difference between four outs and six outs? Six pitches? Ten pitches? And that doesn’t even factor in that the Dodgers had the 5-6-7 hitters due up in the eighth and the 8-9-1 hitters up in the ninth.

So instead you lost a game with a guy who had a 6.07 ERA last year for the Houston Astros.

... ".. I want the ball." We'll see if Kimbrel confirms that, but even if he didn't say that, his look of disgust, standing there with his hands on his hips, will haunt Braves fans all winter.

This should be covered in Managing 101. ... Who cares if it's the seventh inning or the eighth inning or the ninth. I'd rather lose with Carpenter in the ninth inning or the 10th inning or whenever ...

Look, managing your bullpen in a structured manner in the regular season is one thing.

October is not the regular season.

Fredi Gonzalez didn't think the best reliever in the game can get six outs.

He ended up getting none.

(Excerpt) Read more at espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: 2013worldseries; alcs; alds; baseball; cardinals; dodgers; mlb; nlds; rays; redsox; tigers; worldseries
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To: nutmeg

I’m not a Cardinal fan, though they involve one of my earliest baseball memories(first World Series I remember). So I guess I could fill in for tonight. :)


561 posted on 10/23/2013 5:20:12 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: nutmeg

WOO HOO!!!!


562 posted on 10/23/2013 5:36:06 PM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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To: nutmeg; GOPsterinMA; darkangel82

I’m pleasantly surprised that they overturned that horrendous call.


563 posted on 10/23/2013 5:42:12 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: nutmeg

I missed the 1st what happened. How did the Red Sox score?


564 posted on 10/23/2013 5:43:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Impy; nutmeg; Red Steel; darkangel82

Me too!


565 posted on 10/23/2013 5:45:21 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: darkangel82

OK... welcome. :-)


566 posted on 10/23/2013 5:47:05 PM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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To: Red Steel

Napoli, bases clearing double.


567 posted on 10/23/2013 5:47:40 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Cool. :-)


568 posted on 10/23/2013 5:49:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; GOPsterinMA
Ellsbury walked, Petey got a single. Big Papi got a single. Petey ran to 2nd, the 2nd baseman (Kozma?) tagged Petey. At first it looked like Petey WAS out, but on further review (thank goodness Farrell challenged it), it was obvious that the Cards' 2nd baseman never had the ball in his glove, and it dropped out.

The umps originally had Petey out, so runners on first and third. The 6 umpires got together and overruled the bad call! So the bases were loaded when Napoli hit it to the outfield. 3 runs scored!

I think they said the play was an E6.

569 posted on 10/23/2013 5:50:26 PM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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To: darkangel82; GOPsterinMA; nutmeg

I’m not a “fan” exactly of any non-Chi team. Too much of a homer. ;) I do like the Cardinals though, great organization.

I gotta got with Boston though in honor of a friend’s late mother.


570 posted on 10/23/2013 5:51:33 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

LoL Wainright.


571 posted on 10/23/2013 5:51:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Napoli, bases clearing double.

Thanks, Impy. I was so excited that Napoli got a hit with the bases loaded, I didn't even notice it was a double!

572 posted on 10/23/2013 5:52:17 PM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the details. I see on MLB.com that Wainright was charged with 2 earned runs in the 1st.


573 posted on 10/23/2013 5:57:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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“I gotta got with Boston though in honor of a friend’s late mother.”

:)


574 posted on 10/23/2013 6:09:05 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Ortiz just flatten out that shot a little like he hit the other night, Beltran likely doesn’t get there in time to rob him.


575 posted on 10/23/2013 6:10:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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STL is looking bad. Wow...


576 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:55 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Carpenter K’d. Lester sharp tonight.


577 posted on 10/23/2013 6:14:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: nutmeg; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

What’s interesting is that ~4 years ago the g/f took me to an event at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston and Mumbles spoke; he did fine. I could understand him perfectly.

In fact we both said to each other: “Does he put on an act the other times he speaks?”

“You’re right. No doubt the next Boston mayor will be further left than Menino.”

Unfortunately, yes. I hope Boston doesn’t turn crappy like Providence mostly has since Cianci went to Club Fed. I hope Connolly wins; he seems to be a shade less worse than Walsh, who’s a union goon.


578 posted on 10/23/2013 6:20:37 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Red Steel

“Lester sharp tonight.”

Very. Resign him long term and dump Buchholtz.

“Ortiz just flatten out that shot a little like he hit the other night, Beltran likely doesn’t get there in time to rob him.”

Agreed.


579 posted on 10/23/2013 6:22:08 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Impy; nutmeg

I am thinking:

If Sox get 7-run lead, Lester comes out before 75 pitches and he can go in game 4 on short rest.

Farrell:
Farrell does not think like that, however.

Matheny:
Matheny may want to pull that stunt by getting Wainwright out early.


580 posted on 10/23/2013 6:22:25 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (WWLD? What would LaRussa do?)
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