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Where's Craig Kimbrel? Not in the game (Oct. Baseball Live Thread)
ESPN ^ | October 8, 2013 | David Schoenfield

Posted on 10/08/2013 10:04:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT

Craig Kimbrel is supposedly the heir to Mariano Rivera. In his postseason career as closer, Rivera recorded 27 appearances of 2+ innings.

Uribe bunted two balls foul, ... and then tomahawked a high fastball from David Carpenter into left-field stands for a shocking two-run homer ....

Note that I wrote "David Carpenter" and not "Craig Kimbrel."

The Braves had to win this game. Lose, and they go home. Somehow they lost -- in the late innings, no less -- without using the most dominant relief pitcher in the game.

The sad thing is, Gonzalez apparently didn't even think of using Kimbrel for two innings. "I think six outs isn't something we were even talking about in the dugout," he said after the game.

But what’s the difference between four outs and six outs? Six pitches? Ten pitches? And that doesn’t even factor in that the Dodgers had the 5-6-7 hitters due up in the eighth and the 8-9-1 hitters up in the ninth.

So instead you lost a game with a guy who had a 6.07 ERA last year for the Houston Astros.

... ".. I want the ball." We'll see if Kimbrel confirms that, but even if he didn't say that, his look of disgust, standing there with his hands on his hips, will haunt Braves fans all winter.

This should be covered in Managing 101. ... Who cares if it's the seventh inning or the eighth inning or the ninth. I'd rather lose with Carpenter in the ninth inning or the 10th inning or whenever ...

Look, managing your bullpen in a structured manner in the regular season is one thing.

October is not the regular season.

Fredi Gonzalez didn't think the best reliever in the game can get six outs.

He ended up getting none.

(Excerpt) Read more at espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: 2013worldseries; alcs; alds; baseball; cardinals; dodgers; mlb; nlds; rays; redsox; tigers; worldseries
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To: GOPsterinMA; darkangel82; AuH2ORepublican; Red Steel; cripplecreek; dfwgator; campaignPete R-CT
Ryu wins!


221 posted on 10/14/2013 8:09:23 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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did you predict the Ryu victory, oh master of sports fortune-telling?


222 posted on 10/14/2013 9:08:32 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (WWLD? What would LaRussa do?)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

No, I didn’t. Kershaw and Wainwright both lose, how about that.


223 posted on 10/14/2013 9:49:21 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; campaignPete R-CT
Found this article from the Det Free Press and it's about as if the Red Sox are thinking what has been said here. :-) Even Leyland used the same line that's been said up the thread. I'd post the whole article on the thread, but it is against the posting rules so a link will have to do:

Red Sox making Tigers sweat after comeback, 10:37 PM, October 14, 2013

224 posted on 10/14/2013 10:04:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Impy
No, I didn’t. Kershaw and Wainwright both lose, how about that.

It happens at times. Good pitchers do get beat.

225 posted on 10/14/2013 10:09:13 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Especially when their teams don’t score.


226 posted on 10/14/2013 11:08:42 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; darkangel82; AuH2ORepublican; Red Steel; cripplecreek; dfwgator; campaignPete R-CT

I’ll say it again, both LC series are excellent.


227 posted on 10/15/2013 8:30:37 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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Cold and possibly rainy in Detroit tonight.


228 posted on 10/15/2013 8:31:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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The summer wind done come and gone...


229 posted on 10/15/2013 8:33:00 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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Looks like BOS has been reading FR:

http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/boston_red_sox/2013/10/sox_hitters_plan_to_drive_up_pitch_counts_get_into_tigers


230 posted on 10/15/2013 8:34:38 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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Tigers pitching holding the Red Sox to 2-45 so far in the series.


231 posted on 10/15/2013 1:42:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Lackey dealing it. Infante Ks.

Dirks grounds out.


232 posted on 10/15/2013 3:01:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

ellsbury singles. Steal time.


233 posted on 10/15/2013 3:08:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Lackey’s still dealing it. Tigers in the 6th - K, K Popcorn.


234 posted on 10/15/2013 3:26:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Verlander at 100 pitches. Napoli stakes Verlander Deeeeep!

Verlander’s pitches have been getting up.


235 posted on 10/15/2013 3:32:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Verlander up to 111 pitches....


236 posted on 10/15/2013 3:36:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Another great pitcher’s duel. Lackey’s side lands the first shot, will there be another?


237 posted on 10/15/2013 3:37:28 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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Cabrera maybe.


238 posted on 10/15/2013 3:38:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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If he were 100% this would be a different series.


239 posted on 10/15/2013 3:39:24 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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Funny thing is, the better Cabrera is, the better Fielder seems to be.


240 posted on 10/15/2013 3:42:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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