Posted on 10/08/2013 9:50:11 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sources high up at Nvidia say that the program that bribed Origin PC to drop AMD products and publicly badmouth the company, its products, and anything related is called “Tier 0″. The plan was hatched by Nvidia sales and it has a few bits to it. Tier 0 partners have to drop competitive products, AMD in this case, publicly badmouth AMD, and put out press releases/bang the publicity drum on the subject. The idea is to make it look like a grassroots problem that high-end gaming PC makers are all sick of AMD and the alleged but manufactured and false quality problems.
In return they get paid in the form of product discounts, MDF, and/or other assorted funding to a total directly based on the sales of AMD products they either had or would likely have had. On top of this they also gain earlier access to Maxwell GPUs than other OEMs. The total is of course more than the total of AMD sales so it is a net financial positive although some may be indirect, not that it needs saying, and it is what we were hinting at in our earlier article but could not say at the time without further confirmation.
While SemiAccurate is not up on the nuances of antitrust law, from our perspective this looks to be both blatantly illegal and falls afoul of a whole mess of antitrust rules. While this is only our opinion, sources high up at Nvidia are saying the Nvidia Board of Directors agreed with our assessment. In fact our sources told SemiAccurate that earlier today the board called a one Jen-Hsun Huang about the topic, SEC regulations, and ethical corporate behavior, and “reamed him a new one over Tier 0“.
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Nvidia got to Lord British! This can be its own Ultima!
lol.
ANyway, I could imagine that NVIDIA would be a bit upset that AMD is about to make a separate graphics card/chip totally unneeded.
You thinking of the upcoming Kaveri APU?
Is that what its called?
I read somewhere, probably on a Tech Ping here, that it was going to give AMD chips X-Box type graphics.
Nvidia has a more immediate thread called the R9 290X....Titan power but several hundred dollars less is the Rumor!
NVdia has the prowess to create cpu’s using its gpu’s and several supercomputers have been built using just NVidia’s gpu’s. Nvidia ought to just build competing products that will run agnostically or on it’s own motherboards. I’ll bet NVIDIA based gpu/cpu machines would be monster performers!
I think it is about time for another computing revolution, these things used to happen every 9 or 10 months. The good old days.
why not?
Competition is a good thing
How do you figure?
Good starting point is another article at Semi-Accurate:
AMD’s Mantle is the biggest change to gaming in a decade
GPU 14: Dice and AMD make the API devs have yearned for
Mantle is probably what I was thinking of.
durus- probably just a brain fart on my part. But this Mantle thing sounds like a bg deal.
They feed stuff to the NVIDIA parallel processors running CUDA coded programs.
The higher performing Graphics cards are still very important to the Gamers.
Now about Mantle...it is software to allow the Game Developers to program their games for the upcoming consoles -- Sony's P4 and Microsoft's XBox One
THEN with the Mantle software on the bigger PC's the Upscaling of the Game Titles will also convert easily to the more powerful PC's with the NEW AMD Graphics cards running the GCN architecture.
If the strategy of AMD is followed by the Game Developers...AMD will eventually talk a lot of Market Share from NVIDA in the Gaming Market Segment.
Nvidia is clearly very worried and is fighting back.
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Stand by for future developments.
Intel is gonna feel it too....at least a little bi!
See the link at post #11.
as long as we have some techies here familiar with gaming-quality video can anyone recommend a top of the line video board I might want to get for a monster PC I am making at home?
It is going to be a monster machine with (at least) 8 monitors for forward/side/down viewing for a helicopter remote-control system
(but at first it will be for playing MickeySoft flight simulator)
As far as Mantle goes Nvidia doesn't have to be worried. Mantle isn't being pushed as a AMD specific API and, to be blunt, if Mantle doesn't work on Nvidias hardware then it won't be adopted as a standard. If it does become a standard (and that is what AMD should be hoping for) then a standards group will be formed and Nvidia will have it's say. It would make more sense for AMD to work with Nvidia on this. Nvidia has more expertise in this area than AMD.
For that matter AMD has some serious issues going on that it needs to resolve. It's crossfire implementation is junk compared to Nvidias SLI. It's support for OLED Ultra High Res monitors is shaky too. (as is Nvidia but Nvidia is admitting it and working on it)
I'm glad that you brought up Intel as this is really a shot across their bow and not Nvidias. They are the ones that need to worry. While Intel makes a clearly superior chip, the cost per performance ratio is clearly on AMD's side.
There's OpenGL… though the biggest problem with OpenGL, IMO, is that the bindings I've seen are basically hampered by the assumption that everyone is using C/C++, which isn't going to be doing the industry any favors in production-quality or maintainability. (I'd really like to see [and am working on] a binding that uses the concept of subtypes to restrict the parameters of function-calls to valid ones.)
If the API is stable and easy to develop with maybe companies could start developing games for PCs again. I'm sick of console ports to PCs, it has crippled the imagination of the entire industry.
I have mixed feelings here: on the one hand having a language/framework that can compile targeting multiple platforms is generally a goo thing. On the other, it does force the developers to think in terms of lowest common denominator — like lack of a keyboard for consoles leaking over to stunted controls on the PC.
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