[Jim Noble]

i fear only CWII can really sort out the problems this country faces, and it will be ugly, brutal and short

They thought that about CW I as well, but they were wrong.

If war could git 'er done in 3 months, I'd consider it. I think ten years is more like it, and the process would be more like:"Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." ".

I'd rather do a deal, if there is a deal to be had.

[Chode]

the reason i don't see it as a ten year war is because i think the EBT Nation would starve to death in the first year if not two...

they have been handed everything their whole life that they didn't steal and once the EBT cards quit working the cities will turn feral and cannibal in no time, and once they move out of the cities and into the burbs/countryside, well, it's game on and they should expect no quarter because none will be given

if you haven't read any of FReeper Travis McGee's books, i highly recommend them

and as far as doing a deal, even if those outside the give away zone are for it, i'm sure the Southerners inside the zone will NEVER go for it... so there we are, back to CWII