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Nazis offered peace with the Allies in 1941… but only if they were allowed to invade Russia
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 12:36 EST, 26 September 2013 | Anna Edwards

Posted on 09/26/2013 8:16:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The Nazis attempted to broker a peace offering with Britain—if they were allowed a free path to attack the USSR, a new book has revealed.

Rudolf Hess’s flight to Britain during World War Two to sign a peace deal ordered by Adolf Hitler has long been recorded as a bizarre one-man mission to try and reconcile warring West Europe and the Nazis. …

But historian Peter Padfield has discovered evidence he claims proves that the deputy Führer held a detailed peace treaty.

It proposed that the Nazis would withdraw from western Europe, in exchange for British neutrality over a planned attack on Russia, the Daily Telegraph reported. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: adolfhitler; germany; meinkampf; nazigermany; peterpadfield; rudolfhess; sovietunion; unitedkingdom; ussr
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To: PGR88

How to get the innocents out of the way is the dilemma. The winner would not have been satisfied with ending the conflict upon the defeat of his opponent, though.


41 posted on 09/26/2013 9:35:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

In hind sight, we should have taken them up on that offer.


42 posted on 09/26/2013 9:43:11 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

Like they would’ve honored it. Just another “Peace for our time” redux, even worse since it was after the war was kicked off.


43 posted on 09/26/2013 9:44:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Verginius Rufus

we forget how vast the Soviet Union was. After Moscow there is a lot of “lebensraum” all the way to to the Pacific Ocean. They would have been busy for decades rolling east.


44 posted on 09/26/2013 9:52:00 PM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: Olog-hai

Israel didn’t exist until 1948.


45 posted on 09/26/2013 9:56:34 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

But it existed 2000 years ago too


46 posted on 09/26/2013 9:56:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

The state of Israel :)


47 posted on 09/26/2013 9:58:44 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

:)


48 posted on 09/26/2013 10:01:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Olog-hai

It would have left them greatly weakened, which would have given the West the advantage.


49 posted on 09/26/2013 10:07:06 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s no coincidence that the two major axis powers were on each end of the USSR.


50 posted on 09/26/2013 10:08:51 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: laplata
Check out post 31.
51 posted on 09/26/2013 10:17:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jonty30

Russia couldn’t fight back as it was without US help.

The worst case scenario is a Germany with its eastern flank secure, never mind a bigger death toll of the Jews, Gypsies, and many other minorities.


52 posted on 09/26/2013 10:19:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Called him uncle joe IIRC.


53 posted on 09/26/2013 10:22:53 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: laplata

He saw the other real enemy that’s for sure.


54 posted on 09/26/2013 10:26:51 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Olog-hai

Check out post 31.


My apologies to you. I understand.


55 posted on 09/26/2013 10:27:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Yes, he did. Churchill knew that England was low man on the totem poll (under FDR and Stalin) and he made the most of it.


56 posted on 09/26/2013 10:32:16 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Olog-hai
Still and all, Hitler didn’t have to declare war on the USA on 12/11/41, thus saving himself a lot of grief. But he did.

Save FDR a lot of grief. He was going to war with Germany regardless. Hitler saved him the hassle of convincing us to go along with it. (I think it was the right decision, but they gave too much help to the Soviets because of all the commie influence in the US government.)

57 posted on 09/26/2013 10:59:13 PM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m waiting for Pat Buchanan to weigh in on the matter.


58 posted on 09/26/2013 11:39:23 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai
What about Poland? Lithuania? Latvia? Hitler considered most of Poland as part of Germany, so that would not have been negotiable. Same with Austria.

France would have to lose at least Alsace and Lorraine, no way Hitler was giving that back.

What about the West's treaties with Poland which they basically ignored anyway when Poland was invaded? What about all of the Jews from Germany to Moscow and beyond?

59 posted on 09/27/2013 12:13:27 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Those are just minor details to the crowd that thinks the USA could have gotten away with staying out of the war while those two powers duked it out. Remember Woodrow Wilson’s re-election campaign slogan (and famous last words), “He Kept Us Out Of War” . . . and once a tyrant claims the crown jewels of Charlemagne for himself as Adolf did, he ain’t going to stop at anything.


60 posted on 09/27/2013 12:21:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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