We agree that mercury is a very nasty poison, and its effects are awful.
> ... like nuclear ions.
Could you explain what you mean by "nuclear ions" in this context? Please get technical, as I'm likely to understand it better in technical terms than a mere lay explanation.
> And the fact is these things ALL fluorescents are terrible for the eyes to work under everything.
I hate working under old-style (60Hz) fluorescent lighting -- it flickers, hums, and makes me crazy after half an hour. OTOH, I don't have any problem with high-freq CFLs. There's no discernible flicker or hum, and the color spectrum is more pleasant.
> Its time to change. It is important. It’s where everyone has to work play shop it’s called lights
Personally I favor LED lighting. Incandescents are fine as heaters, not so great as light sources.
> And putting millions of tons of mercury into our world and the EPA blatantly lying about these thing for 50+!years and shilling for GE has got to stop
Well, I'm no particular fan of the EPA. But "millions of tons" from CFLs? That's a heck of a lot of mercury to have been contributed by the tiny amounts of vapor in CFLs, especially if they're being disposed of properly. Let me advise you of something -- this is quoted from the Wikipedia page on Mercury:
Natural sources, such as volcanoes, are responsible for approximately half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can be divided into the following estimated percentages:[88][89][90]Comment? Specifically, where would you place the ACTUAL contribution -- actual releases of mercury from CFLs into the atmosphere -- in the list above? Please document with cites from sources who are not affiliated with either rabid pro-CFL crusaders like EPA or GE, or rabid anti-CFLs crusaders; something from a neutral peer reviewed science journal would be great.
- 65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in 1999). This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury has not been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one and two orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil combustion, depending on the country.[88]
- 11% from gold production. The three largest point sources for mercury emissions in the U.S. are the three largest gold mines. Hydrogeochemical release of mercury from gold-mine tailings has been accounted as a significant source of atmospheric mercury in eastern Canada.[91]
- 6.8% from non-ferrous metal production, typically smelters.
- 6.4% from cement production.
- 3.0% from waste disposal, including municipal and hazardous waste, crematoria, and sewage sludge incineration.
- 3.0% from caustic soda production.
- 1.4% from pig iron and steel production.
- 1.1% from mercury production, mainly for batteries.
- 2.0% from other sources.
Thanks!
Hi! Very thoughtful response. Remember first and foremost I’m talking about the tubes 4 ft. 8 ft. T8 t12. These are the major source for the mercury as they are in every building and have been for 50 yrs or more
CFL lamps use 25000 hz which is very high frequency like radio waves. This causes all kinds of interference with electronic and dirty electricity
Many many folks are harmed by CFLs I can cite case after case- it is more the sensitive and vulnerable but dammit! They count too!
When I’m talking comparison with nuclear ions I’m talking strontium 137. Or cesium 158 or anything unstable which emits gamma or other radiation or neutrons. These Are extremely toxic if ingested. Mercury is much more insidious - you don’t really see the effects right away but it irreversibly binds to places that are supposed to be magnesium and other ions critical for the immune system.
When you look at where mercury is coming from it is Very disingenuous for the EPA to cite power plants and volcanoes which are very far away and all total have made a conc of 1 nano gram per cu mtr. That is 10-9 g
One cfl has 5-20 milligrams. And one t8. Like 40 mg Take one store there might be 1000 t8 lamps. All that need replacing by laypersons once every two or three years. Many break while being removed and replaced
That would be say up to a gram of mercury a year in a confined space
In the back say 10000. cu ft. Or only 400. Cu mtr.
That would be again something like 25 milligrams per cu mtr. Which is 250 000 000 times what the atmospheric conc is. And it doesn’t ever go away so it just chronically poisons folks and they have no idea
the EPA is actively trying to downplay this serious danger and confuse people because they don’t understand either chemistry or epidemiology
Ie dose of the poison and acute vs chronic.
Mercury is a very insidious poison and the greed of the industry and zealousness if the global warming activists knows no bounds
Finally you are correct. LED lights are it. They use computer chips to gernerate photons at 3v dc. The heat mgmt is the major issue but 10 yr warranties are now available.
Cheers.