Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

STMicroelectronics LENR Patent
ECat News ^ | Sept 23, 2013 | Admin

Posted on 09/25/2013 5:47:55 PM PDT by Kevmo

STMicroelectronics LENR Patent September 23, 2013

Developments in the CF arena may be slow but there are occasional surprises dotted on the way. One such is the revelation of a Patent application by STMicroelectronics. There is no doubt that this is LENR. It is in the title. The application is very specific and unlike AR’s patent apps, is extremely professional. I have only skimmed it to be sure it is worth discussion. It certainly is. Filed in February this year and with a priority date of Feb 2012, it is evident that some quarter of STM (Italian?) has a keen interest in the subject.

Much time is spent in explaining the control mechanism but it goes further than that. This device is described in great detail. It does not seem to be trolling. I did wonder if a small group within the company had been convinced by external events such that they knocked up a ‘just in case’ patent but on reading further, I doubt that is the case. This appears to be a serious attempt at staking a claim on a device they had painstakingly contracted and used to effect. What that effect is, we cannot be sure. I am tempted to conclude that they have built such a device and obtained results worth protecting. As always, however, sober reflection is a canny strategy and I will hold off the knee-jerk reaction until further reading.

I welcome your thoughts. Those qualified to do so, please examine the patent carefully and share your view in the comments section so that we all might learn something.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130243143

[With thanks to pagnucco at Vortex]


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: canr; cmns; coldfusion; lenr

1 posted on 09/25/2013 5:47:55 PM PDT by Kevmo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://lenr-canr.org/


2 posted on 09/25/2013 5:48:27 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Google patent link

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130243143


3 posted on 09/25/2013 5:48:51 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo

E-cat LENR Bumpety bump bump


4 posted on 09/25/2013 6:05:14 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo

Well that’s rather interesting. STMicro would be expected to be doing R&D in the area of microelectronics and fabrication techniques, and this I think is where they are aiming to out-LENR Rossi with this priority claim.

I’m no patent attorney but I’ve got a few and have a good understanding of MEMS - here’s the paydirt IMHO:

“It may be possibile to simultaneously realize, on an inert support, for example a silicon substrate coated with a layer of the respective oxide, heaters and temperature sensors suitable for being used in reaction chambers where the interaction between hydrogen and transition metals for the activation of nuclear reactions occurs at temperatures approximately between 100 and 500 degrees Celsius (° C.). This realization may be attained with relatively reduced costs and in a compact, extremely precise form.”

From the above, this sounds like “LENR in a nutshell” but prefaced by their “for example...” leads me to think they are looking at implementing the LENR reactor with silicon wafer-scale integration, using MEMS fab technology. The art of making microstructures in silicon (including flow channels, sensing elements, micro pumps, micro valves, and reaction surfaces, etc) is well established. It is also easy to make strong yet very small and resilient supporting structures, heating elements, and so forth in MEMS devices. Combine all the above and you’ve got “LENR on a Chip”...think about that....


5 posted on 09/25/2013 6:20:19 PM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo

one further thought - -

this whole concept of “LENR-on-a-chip” implies a degree of scalability I hadn’t considered before when reading about LENR. Suppose that *whatever* is going on that creates excess heat can actually be scaled up and down. It’s a bit mind-boggling to think of an energy source that could go from a AAA battery to a utility-scale power plant based on the same principle, just scaled up or down.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 6:27:01 PM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bigbob

Too bad thermovoltaics are so inefficient, it would be great if there was a way to convert this heat directly into electricity.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 6:42:37 PM PDT by Husker24
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: bigbob
bigbob said: "Suppose that *whatever* is going on that creates excess heat can actually be scaled up and down. "

The Brazilian group that is working on gravity motors will also be interested in this approach. In addition to scalability, it ought to be possible to fabricate an array of gravity motors on a chip using a variety of orientations. This would permit the chip to generate energy independent of the orientation of the chip in the external gravitational field.

There would only be limited interest in a AAA battery with a label which says, "This end up".

8 posted on 09/25/2013 6:50:08 PM PDT by William Tell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Husker24
"Too bad thermovoltaics are so inefficient, it would be great if there was a way to convert this heat directly into electricity."

Actually, there is one very small group (two guys) who are working on an approach to converts the LENR energy directly to electricity, bypassing the heat step entirely.

They postulate that once the "fused" nucleus forms, it is in a highly excited state, and it might be possible to "siphon off" that energy directly into a semiconductor conductive band. They have built several very simple, compact working devices and gotten it to generate EMF and a very small current.

I certainly have to give them credit for "thinking outside the box".

No time to chase links right now, but I'll try to post one here later (unless some kind soul beats me to it).

9 posted on 09/26/2013 4:19:58 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: William Tell

Don’t AA style batteries already come with a “this side up”?


10 posted on 09/26/2013 5:02:21 AM PDT by Eepsy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Husker24
Too bad thermovoltaics are so inefficient, it would be great if there was a way to convert this heat directly into electricity.

There are lots of applications when you want heat directly. Toaster ovens, space heaters, water heaters, etc.

11 posted on 09/26/2013 5:07:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: bigbob

“LENR on a Chip”...

Small, cheap portable heating units for, for example, heating liquids, food and tents on camping trips?

Office drip coffee maker that uses almost no electricity?

And so forth...


12 posted on 09/26/2013 5:54:09 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Husker24

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3066198/posts

Be sure to go to the linked reference. Lots of pictures of the gizmos.

They also presented a paper at one of the ICCF conferences.


13 posted on 09/26/2013 5:54:40 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Wonder Warthog
Actually, there is one very small group (two guys) who are working on an approach to converts the LENR energy directly to electricity, bypassing the heat step entirely.

Wow, now that would be something! Forever batteries and box-sized home power units. You wouldn't have to get off the grid, there eventually might be no grid other than for national defense purposes or some such thing.

However, I suspect that the central planning tax bureaucracies we call governments might be opposed to such devices. :)

14 posted on 09/26/2013 6:05:50 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: citizen
"You wouldn't have to get off the grid, there eventually might be no grid other than for national defense purposes or some such thing."

I suspect that most critical national defense installations are already "off the grid" or with ready capability to do so on a microseconds notice.

"However, I suspect that the central planning tax bureaucracies we call governments might be opposed to such devices. :)"

That may well be so, but given a proven reality of a practical device, I don't see how they avoid it happening. There are plenty of places in the world with minimal grid and few "intellectual property" scruples that would build and supply them.

Imagine air-dropping a cargo container with all the power, communication, and water purification needs a village might have to remote places, powered by LENR.

15 posted on 09/26/2013 7:21:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Wonder Warthog
Imagine air-dropping a cargo container with all the power, communication, and water purification needs a village might have to remote places, powered by LENR.

Might be a minority, but we have some rural property and the cost to run electric is prohibitive.

A small scale version of a device like this that could power a cabin and some power tools and provide heat would be pretty amazing.

Similarly, the recreational vehicle market would be huge if an affordable small scale device were available.
16 posted on 09/26/2013 8:22:20 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: chrisser
"Might be a minority, but we have some rural property and the cost to run electric is prohibitive."

If you're a minority, I'm in the same one. I've subscribed to "Backwoods Home" magazine for years.

"A small scale version of a device like this that could power a cabin and some power tools and provide heat would be pretty amazing."

For any free-standing single family home, it would revolutionize energy availability.

"Similarly, the recreational vehicle market would be huge if an affordable small scale device were available."

THAT particular option is one the "I" hope comes to fruition.

17 posted on 09/26/2013 8:41:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Husker24

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_generator


18 posted on 09/26/2013 8:57:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Eepsy
Eepsy said: Don’t AA style batteries already come with a “this side up”?

Nope. They come with polarity markings to indicate the direction of current flow, but they function regardless of orientation in a gravitational field.

Lead-acid batteries are not so forgiving. Orient them "upside-down" and the acid solution will find its way out of the battery case.

19 posted on 09/26/2013 10:00:07 AM PDT by William Tell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson