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Five Ways to Detect Climate Denying Rubbish
copycarbon.com ^ | 9/19/2013 | Russell

Posted on 09/22/2013 12:13:29 PM PDT by Beave Meister

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To: Beave Meister
The prissy priests of the great carbon con screaming “Burn the heretic's!” again...what a bore. .the fault idol has been topped
21 posted on 09/22/2013 1:28:05 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Paladin2
Trust me, they are well paid.

The Australian government just fired one of those AGW scientist a couple days ago. He was being paid 180,000 part time. Guess it is difficult for a progressive to live on 180,000 part time income.

22 posted on 09/22/2013 1:34:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (I think Obama and crew feel that time is being wasted and that we need to get the jump on Russian sh)
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To: Beave Meister

Another cretinous British misanthrope angrily screaming “off with their heads”?


23 posted on 09/22/2013 1:34:10 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Beave Meister

Deny THIS!

It is a fact that the Earth has NOT had rising temperatures, for the last 15 years.

I believe Lord Monckton, before I believe any “accredited organization”, N.G.O. that exists on federal grants, or any little tw(i)t that believes their overpaid college professors.


24 posted on 09/22/2013 1:49:44 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Beave Meister
I expected some detailed facts and I got a tired old lecture instead.

Yeah, and I suspect that the comments [all negative] were from the commenters on this thread. Heh.

25 posted on 09/22/2013 2:27:39 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Beave Meister
There is a term used in psychiatry to describe the upside-down nuttiness embodied in this hysterical screed:

Projection.

26 posted on 09/22/2013 2:28:40 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Beave Meister; Revolting cat!

“If they use facts”
“If they use past quotes from the scientific community”
“If they point out how 40 years ago the threat was a looming Ice Age and now the threat is spiking global warming”
“If they didn’t vote for Obama”
“If they ridicule bicycle lanes”


27 posted on 09/22/2013 3:00:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Beave Meister; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Italian Senate Hears Reality: World Federation of Scientists Report “Global Warming Is Not A Threat”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3059915/posts

Top climate scientists admit global warming forecasts were wrong
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3067045/posts

World’s top climate scientists told to ‘cover up’...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3069137/posts

Alaska Glacier Thaws, Ancient Forest Emerges
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3069951/posts?page=21#21


28 posted on 09/22/2013 5:56:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: exDemMom

No there is no Climate Science yet. Everybody is still flailing about.

29 posted on 09/22/2013 7:20:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Paladin2

Climate science is the study of how various factors, such as sunlight, tilt of the earth, ocean currents, etc., combine to produce various weather events. It has advanced to the point that forecasters can recognize forming hurricanes, but not to the point where tornadoes can be predicted. There is a real need for better understanding of climate.

The wild chase after “global warming”, unfortunately, takes time, money, and resources away from studying the questions that still need to be answered.

There are at least a couple of issues with the chart you posted. One is that it covers such a short time span—it certainly does not cover sufficient time to establish any temperature patterns—humans have not been measuring temperature for a long enough time to have any but a rough idea of temperature patterns. Another is that it is highly doubtful that the average temperature of the earth can be measured, especially not to within 1/10 of a degree (about the height of one of those vertical bars on the data points). With extremely reliable and sensitive thermometers, we can’t even achieve that kind of precision when measuring the temperature of a single human being, which is a far more constant temperature system than the earth. So the idea that the earth’s average temperature can be measured to within 1/10 of a degree, and that the average can then be shown to have varied over a range of 0.6 degrees over the last 25 years is ludicrous. I would say that the 0.6 degree range shown on that chart falls well within background noise—meaning that it means nothing at all.

Where did you find that chart?


30 posted on 09/22/2013 9:26:56 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: tophat9000
Burn the heretic's!

Death to all misplaced apostrophes!!

31 posted on 09/22/2013 10:23:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: exDemMom
":Climate science is the study of how various factors, such as sunlight, tilt of the earth, ocean currents, etc., combine to produce various weather events. It has advanced to the point that forecasters can recognize forming hurricanes, but not to the point where tornadoes can be predicted."

That's the definition of weather science. Climate Science is supposed to address the longer term ~ 30 yr +. To date, though there are many scientists working in the area, there is no Climate Science as they can't yet predict squat. The figure is apparently part of the IPCC 5th report, now leaking out. The predictions/projections from their models have been overcome by events.

32 posted on 09/23/2013 7:06:25 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Paladin2
"The assessments will not be written by paid groups, but by scientists who volunteer their time" Trust me, they are well paid.

Even if IPCC does not directly pay them, the simple fact of being part of IPCC means that they have a lot of control over who gets grants and who gets papers published.

33 posted on 09/23/2013 7:12:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: cpdiii
During the Middle Age Warming period the temperature was about almost 2 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than now. The icecaps did not melt and the seas did not drown the coasts. In fact human kind flourished due to increased crop yields and the Vikings were farming in Southern Greenland. This was pre industrial revolution and thus had nothing to do with CO2.

I would expect that Greenland would be very fertile in a warming period. Melt runoff from glaciers would keep fields well irrigated.

34 posted on 09/23/2013 7:15:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Exactly.

Most of the suspects "contributors" are on the gov't dole.

35 posted on 09/23/2013 8:48:01 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Beave Meister

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

They are still trying to convince people that the world is flat and calling those of us who say it’s spherical “deniers”!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2425775/Climate-scientists-told-cover-fact-Earths-temperature-risen-15-years.html#ixzz2fR8mXYFG
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=865dbe39-802a-23ad-4949-ee9098538277

http://www.sustainableoregon.com/ipccscientists.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3068590/posts

http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/9499/20130916/climate-models-clouded-uncertainty.htm
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/just_the_facts_maam1/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2134769/Is-global-warming-just-hot-air-World-temperatures-risen-just-0-29C-decades.html
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/climate-change-suspect-must-be-given-a-fair-trial/story-e6frg6xf-1226104017991
tp://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims—Challenge-UN-IPCC—Gore

http://nation.foxnews.com/epa/2011/03/16/green-price-tag-700-trillion-drop-earths-temp-1-degree
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/23762

Ah yes, Climate Change. The new phrase that pays -grant money in exchange for your soul. The govt. is no longer to pay for your soul in silver. The used to issue notes that said “Pay bearer on demand 30 pieces of silver” but no they just give you paper fiat money in exchange for your soul backed by carbon credit chits.

Anyway, If it’s cold, that’s Global Warming/Climate Change/disruptification.
It it’s hot, then it’s still Global Warming/Climate Change/disruptification.

There is no way for the Climate Alarmists to lose!

Calling it Climate Change is like a casino that has a roulette wheel where the house wins only if the marble lands on black or red.


36 posted on 09/23/2013 10:34:45 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Beave Meister
Climate Alarmists are gearing up for an idea they really fear: Facts

They would fear Science just as much, but they don't quite seem to understand what it is. Hint to the Climate Alarmists:

Science is NOT merely anything that agrees with your Socialist/Government Supremacist agenda regardless of reality!

37 posted on 09/23/2013 10:39:01 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: PGR88

What about the leprechauns that are creating Climate Change from their 7 million degree underground lair that Al Gore built for them?


38 posted on 09/23/2013 10:40:56 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Beave Meister
The Climate Alarmists prove that muslims aren't the only people that use taqiyya to get their way.
39 posted on 09/23/2013 10:43:01 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Beave Meister
*fifth Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC*

Who will publish this report when it comes out?

Weekly World News?
Mad Magazine (as a joke)?
The Onion?
The American Socialist Monthly?
Newsweek?

40 posted on 09/23/2013 11:11:19 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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