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No bias there, oh no....
1 posted on 09/11/2013 11:13:40 AM PDT by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell
They aren't focusing on the fact that the last session passed a whole bunch of horrible legislation, not just the bad gun bills. Massive tax increases, more unionization of government workers. Plus, the Dems made clear they want to repeal the death penalty and Hick stopped the execution of the most notorious criminal in the state.

People want the state they thought they knew back.

2 posted on 09/11/2013 11:20:58 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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I figured there was no way that could be right

This guy doesn’t get out much


3 posted on 09/11/2013 11:21:47 AM PDT by barmag25
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“made a rare decision not to release the poll.”

Every election from now on, this statement will be in every apology from obama’s PPP.


4 posted on 09/11/2013 11:22:10 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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Kip Russell ~:" No bias there, oh no...."

Sit on the unfavorable poll ? ..and not release it ?
Bwahahahahaha!
And this poll failed to mention that the
'anti-gun 'faction out spent the 'pro-gun 'faction by $6 to $1 !!

OUTSTANDING !!

" Let's ROLL !!"


5 posted on 09/11/2013 11:23:45 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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Public Policy Polling (PPP): Publishing all the polls that fit our political bias!


6 posted on 09/11/2013 11:28:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: Kip Russell

After 2012 when we were embarrassed at the accuracy of the polls. We should just not even look at polls. We didn’t listen to them in 2012 at all and they all ended up being right.


7 posted on 09/11/2013 11:29:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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The PPP is the “Progressive” Democrats favorite polling outfit, because they are shills for their agenda. No one should believe polls from this biased bunch of Democrat boot-lickers.


8 posted on 09/11/2013 11:36:29 AM PDT by txrefugee
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"If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived."

Well, if you had any doubt about where the poller stands on the issues, he removed them.

9 posted on 09/11/2013 11:41:31 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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We did find on the poll though that voters in the district had a favorable opinion of the NRA by a 53/33 margin. And I think when you see the final results what that indicates is they just did a good job of turning the election more broadly into do you support gun rights or are you opposed to them. If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived. But the NRA won the messaging game and turned it into something bigger than it was- even if that wasn't true- and Giron paid the price.

Universal background checks are NOT unobtrusive! Quite the opposite -- they could be used as a precursor to confiscation or other improper actions, and since it's the government, the worst possible presumption consistent with the known fact MUST be made. How is any other presumption safe? (Especially when they COULD do UBC's in an anonymous way, but don't, so how can anyone trust their claims that something harsher isn't the intent, PLUS believe that something harsher will never be the intent of any future government that inherits the information they had to right to possess in the first place?) Ridiculous to even entertain that.

10 posted on 09/11/2013 11:48:47 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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I figured there was no way that could be right and made a rare decision not to release the poll.

I'm curious, which other polls fell into this "rare decision" batch and were never reported?

12 posted on 09/11/2013 12:48:04 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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No kidding. Not only do they give us their crystal ball opinion of what went wrong for the lefties, but they openly advise DEMS to fix this prior to 2014.

I bet they side with doing away with voter ID laws while supporting these “unobtrusive” background check laws.

What is more dangerous? Most DEMs will never be hurt by a conservatives legal gun, but we are hurt daily by their illegal votes.

Thank God, even with outside money and changing voting laws that invite fraud from the usual DEM college kids and SEIU bus riders, they still lost. However, I am disappointed with the numbers, especially Morse. I thought it would be even higher. I was hoping for ground shaking numbers to come out and it scares me that with this much criminal activity by DEMs and Obama that the polls were not overflow all day.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 3:21:00 PM PDT by Cruiser1962 (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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I get as tired of phony and distorted polls as anyone, especially ones that are paid for by Libs including Liberal Media organizations.

One thing to remember, however, is that whoever pays for a poll has the right to keep the results private if they choose to do so. The sponsor of such a privately-funded poll will use it how they see fit... and if it helps their cause to release it prior to an election, they will do so...

However, they obviously did not choose to do so in this case... but maybe the polling company has the right after the election to comment on it/release the results, because doing so doesn't affect the paying client.

If any of us pays for a poll, we get to decide how it gets used, or not used...

Just sayin' ...

14 posted on 09/11/2013 7:35:16 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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Their explanation seems a tad suspect. What evidence do we really have that these numbers were truly accurate, other than their self-serving statement and a poll released after the fact?

This was a recall election- notoriously difficult to predict- and yet, they got the numbers exactly- right? Keep in mind, this is the same polling outfit that didn't do so hot on another difficult-too-predict race recently: "PPP’s final poll of the special election in South Carolina’s 1st Congressional District finds a race that’s too close to call..". Sanford, IIRC, won this race by nine points...

16 posted on 09/12/2013 6:36:47 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Kind of like back in the day when ‘going’ to the track wasn’t some kind of social event (such as Triple Crown etc), the hawkers would be out front and have their ‘tip sheets’. If 4 or 5 people went in together chances are you would not all get the same sheet bought from the same guy, at the same time.
Wait 3 or 4 races and go back and get the same guy, selling the same sheet and somehow the ‘winners’ are in his ‘tip sheets’ or when leaving they would ‘hand you’ a pretty good sheet for todays card and YES, be selling you a ‘pre card’ for tomorrow.

Of course, LIKE ALL GAMBLERS, we were smarter than the house and didn’t need them ‘stinkin sheets’.

Amazing the Entrepreneurships that can arise when the situation warrants it...

I guess in the long run that we did win as most of the old tracks that had ambiance etc are gone, replaced with cookie cutter ovals.....The NEW surge of Casinos should take a tip from the old ‘race tracks’ - when you overflood an area or zone, NO ONE makes any money.

Back when there was just Vegas, the house was VERY PROFITABLE as they were the only ‘game in the land’.

Now that you have a casino or two in every state the intake and outgo may remain basically the same but being ‘shared’ by to many outlets.....

Used to be 2 tracks in CharlesTown WV and they would basically run 365, switching dates etc... One is left but it is more of a casino than any thing else, may not have any racing there, not sure...
Anyway, one of them had a huge boulder out before the final turn and I ‘swear’ the positions would dramatically change when they ‘went behind the rock’....

I gave up on my 1st and 2nd million and am now working on my 3rd.


17 posted on 09/12/2013 7:00:31 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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