Posted on 09/10/2013 8:43:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Tim Tebow has had a rocky NFL career starting with a first round draft pick in 2010 and potentially ending with a dismissal from the New England Patriots about ten days ago. But not all hope is lost as Tebow has been offered a potential "million dollar" contract with Arena League franchise LA KISS.
Operating out of Anaheim, California the LA KISS team, owned by the infamous KISS rockers, has extended an official offer to Tim Tebow. Known for his strong Christian beliefs and positive outlook, a partnership with the rowdy rockers may not seem like the most conventional choice, but the band member believe that Tebow can bring a lot to their team.
"Acquiring Tebow would not only be a great investment for the team, but his exciting style of play would definitely send shockwaves through the League," said KISS bassist Gene Simmons, a.k.a. The Demon, in a press release.
"We're excited for the opportunity to see him with an LA KISS uniform on, and for the LA KISS fans to be rockin' their Tebow shirts and jerseys."
The release stated that Tebow would have the opportunity to "earn millions" if he chooses to sign the three-year contract that has officially been extended. The league owner also expressed faith that if Tebow chose to take the offer, he may find one of the best places to improve his skills.
"Similar to how Kurt Warner blossomed in the NFL after becoming one of the greatest quarterbacks in AFL history, we feel our league is the best place for Tim to refine his skills and gain valuable repetitions. We have tremendous faith in Tim's ability to succeed in the AFL," KISS co-owner Brett Bouchy said.
This is not the first offer that has been extended to Tebow by indoor football. The Omaha Beef offered Tebow a contract in April, that same month, Tebow also got an offer from the Lingerie Football League to be the LFL's "National Quarterback Coach." Other offers have also come out of Canada, but Tebow's management team has shown little interest in any of them
Wrong thread. Take a Left and then go straight to the Kerry thread.
There are two underlying reasons why Tebow is so effective, two reasons that explain his impressive Real Quarterback Rating week after week.
1. He gets the ball in the end zone more often than any QB in football today
2. He protects the football better than any QB in football today
The Broncos clearly have not scored a lot of points with Tebow at quarterback. In fact, Denver has averaged just 19.3 points per game in Tebow’s six starts and has scored 18 points or fewer in five of those games. And clearly, the defense has improved dramatically in recent weeks, either purely as coincidence or as a by-product of the fact that Tebow has helped the team improve in all areas by protecting the football.
But Tebow himself has been deadly with the ball in his hands. He produces touchdowns at an amazing clip, better than any quarterback in football in his brief career. Here’s a comparison of Tebow vs. some of the more prolific quarterbacks in recent history.
Career percentage of touches that result in a TD:
Tim Tebow — 6.0 percent
Aaron Rodgers — 5.7 percent
Peyton Manning — 5.5 percent
Tom Brady — 5.1 percent
Drew Brees — 4.7 percent
John Elway — 3.9 percent
Wow. Tebow may not pass the ball effectively. But he’s produced an incredible 22 touchdowns (13 passing, nine rushing) in just 368 touches (225 pass attempts, 121 rush attempts, 22 sacks). Nobody in football gets the ball in the end zone more often.
More importantly, Tebow takes incredibly good care of the football. We track something at Cold, Hard Football Facts called the “interception ladder.” It shows us that every interception decreases your chances of winning by about 20 percentage points. In other words, interceptions are destructive plays that severely limit a team’s ability to win games.
But the Broncos are winning not just because Tebow protects the football, but because he protects it better than any QB in the game today. Here’s how he stacks up against some of the more prolific QBs in the game today.
Career interception percentage:
Tim Tebow — 1.78 percent
Aaron Rodgers — 1.83 percent
Tom Brady — 2.2 percent
Drew Brees — 2.71 percent
Peyton Manning — 2.75 percent
John Elway — 3.1 percent
Add in that Tebow has lost just one fumble in his career (with four INT) and his turnover rate is an incredibly miniscule 1.4 percent.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/kerry_byrne/11/29/tim.tebow/index.html#ixzz2eWT49ijz
Tebow's stats for 2011 were 126 completions in 271 attempts for a 46.5 completion percentage. He threw for 12 touchdowns, had 6 interceptions, ran for 660 yards and fumbled 13 times. He also had 6 delay of game penalties. Those are not exceptional stats by any measure.
What makes you think he can play left tackle?
Even in his last game with the Patriots he threw the winning TD in the 4th quarter.
Tebow had 6 interceptions in 2011 alone. He also had 13 fumbles that year, losing more than half of them. His fumbles and interceptions increased as 2011 went on - he had 3 interceptions in the Buffalo game.
His post season record is hardly impressive. One win, one loss, completion rate of less than 41%.
Even in his last game with the Patriots he threw the winning TD in the 4th quarter.
Two weeks before he was 1 for 7 with an interception and negative yards passing.
I said he was incredibly good in the games he won, which is more than he lost.
Very few people thought he could win that one game, but he did. Not bad for someone who's portrayed as unable to play as an NFL QB.
Very clever of you to use an article from right before the wheels came off the Tebow situation. In just a few weeks after that the situation got a lot uglier.
Here’s the real career stats:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13200/tim-tebow
His combined stats is 29 TDs on 558 touches with 9 INTs and 14 fumbles.
And you really need to look at the end of that regular season, what happens when the league figured out a player that has no consistency:
NE L 11 comp from 22 attempts no TDs
Buf L 13 comp from 29 attempts 1 TD 3 INTs
KC L 6 comp from 22 attempts no TDs 1 INT
He simply is not a good QB. For a while there it was an entertaining circus to watch a guy win games 10 or fewer completions, but we knew it couldn’t last, it was a gadget style of offense and eventually defenses always catch up to the gadget, in the end your gadget needs to supplement a QB that consistently throws completions. Tebow isn’t that QB, he’s just gadget. Which is why he’s always been 3rd on the depth chart, and why he’s now out of the league.
And after the “wheels came off” he had the big playoff win against Pittsburgh. Clever, isn’t it?
Let’s understand the “big playoff win”. 10 for 21 against a defense that was missing a bunch of starters at the beginning of the game and lost more. By the time the second half started the Steelers front 7 had NO starters and 3 3rd stringers. He beat a team that needed beating, which admittedly he’d failed at the week before losing to KC 3-7, but still beating a team that’s that weak isn’t that dramatic an accomplishment. And then he went to New England and got crushed, again.
It’s not about clever, it’s about consistent. And the only consistency in Tebow’s game is how often the ball meets the grass.
Tebow had 316 yards, 2 TD's passing, no interceptions, no sacks, 50 yards rushing and 1 rushing TD. A great game.
Predictions got nothing to do with it. The facts are the facts. Steelers came in weak and got weaker, weak enough to lose to a QB with 10 completions. Remember 70 yards of that 316 is YAC on one catch, and no that’s not a great game. 316 and 2 TD is a good game, great games need at least 400 yards.
The fact is no "experts" including you expected Denver and Tebow to win the game. It was a great game, your arbitrary definition aside.
Actually I didn’t think the Steelers were going to win, too banged up. My definition isn’t arbitrary, it’s the standard 300 yards is a good performance, you don’t get to great until 400.
Meanwhile though even if all you say is true so what? One playoff win does not make a guy a good QB. Trent Dilfer won a freaking Super Bowl and spent the rest of his career a backup in bottom feeder teams. So even if we take as a given that Tebow’s playoff performance was the greatest QB performance since TV he’s still a QB with a 47.9 career completion percentage, no ability to read defenses, no consistency with his ball placement, whose success has come primarily by running a trick college offense. He got his chance, he did 4 training camps, had 4 coaches, nobody saw him as better than 3rd string talent. Time to accept reality, he’s a nice guy, but a crappy QB.
There are 32 teams that have concluded he can't. Not with enough consistency.
Then why is Joe Namath's SB win considered great? The Jet's defense got 4 crucial interceptions, their running back got over 100 yards, yet Namath got the MVP.
And his drunken prediction doesn't count. Nobody paid it any attention until well after the game.
Namath’s SB win is great because he made a guarantee, which gave the game drama, which caused it to be the first SB to sell out, and the first SB to get better ratings than the conference finals that preceded it, which caused the merger (which had only been approved on a 3 year trial basis) to be considered a success and made permanent. Pretty much everybody admits that Namath didn’t play that great, but without him flapping his jaw it’s probably another half empty stadium with nobody watching on TV and the merger gets unwound. And game MVPs can be odd things, sometimes nobody sticks out but somebody has to get the damn thing.
You might not think the guarantee mattered. But just look at the yawn the first 2 SBs were greeted with compared to 3, it mattered. Making it made the SB an event, and fulfilling it made the merger get finalized. Without that we don’t have the modern NFL.
His guarantee didn’t matter because no one remembered it until after the game. Namath was drunk and resopnding to a heckler. It wasn’t even a member of the press.
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