Syria: Is All News Media Covering ? Call for Research of the Truth [Vanity]

Vanity | 8/29/2013 | Self

[PieterCasparzen]

The obvious question that needs answering:

What was the Original Source of the Syrian "revolution" ?

If it was NOT domestic (initiated and lead by domesting Syrian citizens), but was Foreign-initiated and lead...

That was the Original Act of War.

Asking for anyone who has real information to come clean, out with the truth, here on this thread.

Calling on news media to ask this question.

Calling on members of Congress to ask this question.

The truth needs to come out - who is behind the Syrian revolution.

If the Syrian government is putting down a foreign-initiated coup d'état - then the Syrian government is 100% in the right in defending Syria from a foreign-initiated coup, just like ANY government has not only the right, but the responsibility to do.

IMHO, this so-called revolution - like the entire "arab spring" - is the brainchild of the financial oligarchy, which has had the US State Department, the CIA, NGOs, etc., working on toppling the Syrian government for several years.

[cripplecreek]

The international crisis group is involved in a lot of mideast strife and always ready to volunteer American lives and money.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board.aspx

[humblegunner]

Asking for anyone who has real information to come clean, out with the truth, here on this thread.

I did it.

I egged 'em on, the both sides. I acted alone.

[USS Johnston]

Excellent questions and subject matter.

[USS Johnston]

IMHO, this so-called revolution - like the entire "arab spring" - is the brainchild of the financial oligarchy, which has had the US State Department, the CIA, NGOs, etc., working on toppling the Syrian government for several years.

It's a definite op.

The Community Organizer went off script again, so there'll be a be more drama focused on Syria, and not so much on the half-dozen impeachable scandals (not that WaPo, NYT, CNN, or, Boehner/McConnell give a rip one way or another.)

[Sherman Logan]

If the Syrian government is putting down a foreign-initiated coup d'état - then the Syrian government is 100% in the right in defending Syria from a foreign-initiated coup, just like ANY government has not only the right, but the responsibility to do.

Not hardly.

A government with legitimacy, yes.

Tyrannical oppressive governments have no moral authority to defend themselves, or to do anything else.

The present Syrian regime came to power by military coup, and has no moral right to authority.

Which is not to say the possible alternatives might not be a good deal worse.

[MestaMachine]

It started as a sunni led uprising financed by the saudis.

[PieterCasparzen]

Tyrannical oppressive governments have no moral authority to defend themselves, or to do anything else.

It's not legitimate for the US to pick and choose the leaders and governments of other nations at its own disgression, then covertly or overtly effect "regime change", if there is no real threat to the US which is significant and imminent enough to be viewed as a cause for war. In that case, Congress should be formally declaring war. Otherwise, it's simply the advisors to the President (and whomever they may be offering their services to covertly) run amok.

The present Syrian regime came to power by military coup, and has no moral right to authority.

The US came into being as a result of a revolution, as did the USSR and France. Once one decides to only respect governments that were not the product of a revolution or uprising, where those governments have been in power for a number of years, one is getting into trying to go back into history to find a "legitimate" government to "restore", and usually that is simply not possible.

Most important in the issues of middle eastern uprisings is the fact that the UK and US intelligence agencies (as well as those of the middle eastern nations themselves), along with their financial "masters", have their footprints all over those events; the CIA recently admitted as much regarding the 1953 Iran coup.

Before declaring the Syrian government illegitimate and any CIA/US military actions in the issue implicitly pure, some detailed research into the history of the CIAs actions is essential. For instance, in its early days, the CIA was run out of Rockefeller Center right next to MI6 operations in the US, and it's upper leadership was essentially just a collection of Wall Street cronies. To ignore this disturbing fact is at best incredibly naive.

Current governments and national boundaries - as they are - do pose a line to cross when foreigners try to initiate revolts inside them.

Trouble is right now with the State Department and CIA, they have an enormous amount of ongoing efforts - to the tune of billions of dollars - dedicated to regime changes, and even changes to the basic structure of governments of many "third world" countries, let alone to their cultures, societies and economies. And while much of this activity is declared publicly with all sorts of euphemisms and vague generalities, it is neatly kept out of the media so most Americans have basically no idea of the enormity of what is being carried out under the aegis of America. All under the banner of "helping", it invariably earns the ire of local populations through imposing globalism's agenda on them and typically causing intense financial and societal suffering for many, while enriching a few local vassals and minions - and enriching globalist corporations most of all, and mostly ensuring the hegemony of the US dollar and Western central banking.

[PieterCasparzen]

Interesting considering Saudi royals/business/intel is pretty much married to Anglo-American political/financial/intel interests.

Fascinating reading, the Saudi intel chiefs:

Kamal Adham

Nawwaf bin Abdulaziz Al Saud

Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud

Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan

Perhaps Woodward's book Veil summed up the relationship best: "It was impossible to determine where Saudi interests in these arrangements ended and American CIA interests began."

[PieterCasparzen]

Ping the old list.

Just curious about this.

[cunning_fish]

IMO, it has started as a series of minor local unrests by people rightfully disagreed with government corruption, but soon turned radical with an influx of foreign jihadis who came to pursue their so-called ‘arab spring’ agenda.
If you are to research carefully, initially people were running from the rebels to seek help from the government.
Radicals took over some neighborhoods and used population as a human shield attacking police which led to civilian casualties on hands of government forces who shot back.
Situation has escalated and government reinforced police with military units which eventually led to more collateral damage.
It led to successful recruitment of local folks into terrorist ranks.
Now it is just an awful bloodbath with tanks and airforce involved but I’m sure a majority of Syrians are still on the government side.

[Hardraade]

And it was pushed by Al Quaida proper in one of their main forums before anyone ever spoke loudly about it. But just days after being mentioned on AMEF (that Assad should be the next domino), Obama had this lightbulb going off in his head.

AQ running US foreign policy. Isn’t it amazing...

[PieterCasparzen]

IMO, it has started as a series of minor local unrests by people rightfully disagreed with government corruption, but soon turned radical with an influx of foreign jihadis who came to pursue their so-called ‘arab spring’ agenda.

No, it's been cooking for quite some time in new world order circles.

This 2007 WSJ article gives some background.

The National Salvation Front in Syria is a Muslim Brotherhood-connected opposition organization, founded in 2006 by Ali Sadreddin Al Bayanouni, a lawyer and former bodyguard to Brotherhood officials and Abdul Halim Khaddam, representing breakaway Baathists. NSF began discussions with the Bush administration that same year.

A key member of the Syrian opposition "coalition" group Syrian National Council is Bassma Kodmani (you can see her picture at the link). She has ties to new world order's Council on Foreign Relations and the Ford Foundation, which has well-known historical ties to the CIA. Here is her bio at the Arab Reform Initiative (ARI) of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Just to dot the i's, here's the ARI page at CFR's site.

As these links show, there are a lot of well-connected people that have been working on this for a long time on behalf of new world order.

[PieterCasparzen]

For those reading along, note that the WSJ article was entitled:

To Check Syria, U.S. Explores Bond With Muslim Brothers

and it was published on July 25, 2007.

[PieterCasparzen]

For the card-carrying communists, here's another "neat" link to an abstract from "Labor Studies Journal":

The American Federation of Teachers in the Middle East: Teacher Training as Labor Imperialism

It discusses AFT's efforts in nearby Lebanon. Everybody can get in on the act.

[cunning_fish]

>>>IMO, it has started as a series of minor local unrests by people rightfully disagreed with government corruption, but soon turned radical with an influx of foreign jihadis who came to pursue their so-called ‘arab spring’ agenda.

No, it’s been cooking for quite some time in new world order circles.<<<

It is very likely if there was something from the outside to heat tensions, but it doesn’t change much.

[cunning_fish]

>>>And it was pushed by Al Quaida proper in one of their main forums before anyone ever spoke loudly about it. But just days after being mentioned on AMEF (that Assad should be the next domino), Obama had this lightbulb going off in his head.

AQ running US foreign policy. Isn’t it amazing...<<<

Well, luckily it has failed in Egypt which is the most important arab nation and it looks like Assad is still kicking butts in Syria which is a #2 arab nation.
It really seems like second caliphate won’t happen this time (at least I hope for it).

[PieterCasparzen]

For taxpayers curious about future taxes based on wild government spending, on projects such as new world order taxpayer-funded national sovereignty reduction/assimilation programs...

do a web search for...

mepi medregion update volume 3

You’ll find PDF’s of the Department of State’s MEPI Mid East region newsletter from 2009.

Simply dazzling.

[PieterCasparzen]

I used to be concerned about “caliphate”, but it’s a nonsensical idea.

(see the links at post #9).

Saudi Royals are like a subsidiary of the US financial power structure, i.e., new world order.

They completely rely on them like a kid brother. Help me, help me ! Of course, in their own country they’re the biggest of the big. But new world order uses the US military like a club to beat the stuffin’ out of those who will not do what nwo wants them to.

[GOPJ]

From your link - a mishmash of the untrustworthy....

George Soros
Chairman, Open Society Institute

Pär Stenbäck
Former Foreign Minister of Finland
Other Board Members

Kofi Annan
Former Secretary-General for the United Nations; Nobel Peace Prize (2001)

Nahum Barnea
Chief Columnist for Yedioth Ahronoth, Israel

Sandy Berger
Chair, Albright Stonebridge Group LLC; Former U.S. National Security Adviser