Posted on 07/31/2013 12:02:01 PM PDT by Kartographer
Two EMP experts told Secrets that the EMP flashed through earth's typical orbit around the sun about two weeks before the planet got there.
"The world escaped an EMP catastrophe," said Henry Cooper, who lead strategic arms negotiations with the Soviet Union under President Reagan, and who now heads High Frontier, a group pushing for missile defense.
"There had been a near-miss about two weeks ago, a Carrington-class coronal mass ejection crossed the orbit of the Earth and basically just missed us," said Peter Vincent Pry, who served on the Congressional EMP Threat Commission from 2001-2008. He was referring to the 1859 EMP named after astronomer Richard Carrington that melted telegraph lines in Europe and North America.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Some of the modern retrofits for small old dams can produce a surprising amount of power from a dam with as little as 10 feet of head.
That book, duct tape, tie wraps, and other misc. bits and pieces kept my 1969 bug humming.
“Not an RF engineer, but assuming a solar flare couldn’t would be hubris.”
No it isn’t hubris. It’s fact. A solar flare does not generate an EMP that directly damages electronics like a nuclear EMP.
“A nuke delivers it’s power like a square wave, induces harmonics all over the place, besides the first induction that occurs in wiring/circuitry. Much larger chance of causing issues.”
You just wrote nonsense. You do not appear to know anything about this subject. Please try again.
“A solar flare large enough will induce into everything.”
No it won’t. Again, you do not appear to know anything about this subject. Please try again.
“If a solar flare takes out all the major transformers in the power grid, that will indirectly affect all electronics.”
It won’t take out all major transformers. The experts seem to agree on that.
I’m not saying it’s not a significant event. I’m saying it’s not the same as a Nuclear EMP event as the author of the article, and the poster of the thread seems to think.
Your electronics will be fine. Your home generator will work. Many things will work fine. The grid would be de-integrated for a time and that could be a problem, but this isn’t “back to the stone-age” stuff.
I had that manual! And a ‘65 and ‘70 VW sedans.
“telegraphs burned” I can’t remember the last telegram I sent, so who cares.
OK it’s my error. Everyone it’s my mistake. I was foolish and am totally in error.
Now can we talk about it?
Can you tell me where Oak Ridge goes wrong in their report? Is their report hysteria? If so can you tell us why they are wrong and how you came to that conclusion?
http://web.ornl.gov/sci/ees/etsd/pes/pubs/ferc_Executive_Summary.pdf
The only relevant report to this thread is the Meta-R-322.
Read it. Kappenman is a good guy and THE expert. You won’t see him saying that Solar Flares will destroy electronics.
Just recently re read it. Good book.
He doesn't have too, it's a proven fact. But by a different means. ;)
Power lines will melt (and worse) if we have a Carrington scale event. It’s likely that virtually every large power transformer in all the power grids on Earth will overheat and fail in the event of a Carrington Event.
Why is the Oak Reidge report not realivant?
I have already agreed that the possiblity of electronics being damaged was overblown in the article.
Are you saying the Oak Ridge Report is incorrect? And what do you base your opinion on?
Also what is your opinion of NASA’a Report:
Severe Space Weather—Social and Economic Impacts?
The Master Cylinder took a crap. While the truck was in motion, of course.....
I did some looking-up; the 2001 Ford Escape has had one recall a year since the truck hit the street. Not encouraging...
“Why is the Oak Reidge report not realivant?”
I didn’t say that. Only part of the report is relevant to solar storms. I told you which part.
Oh, that’s hilarious! All I can count on would be the Chilton manuals...
Gotcha, thanks!
Solar Flare poses huge threat: Column
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Modern electronics are a lot more sensitive, of course, and a similar event today would fry computers, cell phones, new cars and more. More worryingly, it would probably melt major transformers in the power net, transformers that take months or years to replace and that are expensive enough that few spares are kept. Big chunks of the planet -- all of North America, for example -- might be without electricity for a year or longer.
The disruption would kill a lot of people -- some quickly, as medical devices failed, others later as food supplies and clean water became scarce. Without electricity, pretty much everything in our civilization comes to a stop. The economic damage would be incalculable.
We don't know how common Carrington Events are, since they probably wouldn't have made much of an impact in pre-industrial years. But in 1989 a smaller flare wiped out Hydro Quebec's grid, leaving many Canadians without power for an extended period.
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There's now a bill aimed at doing something to harden our systems and prepare for such events. It's called the Secure High-voltage Infrastructure for Electricity from Lethal Damage Act (SHIELD Act for short, in one of those now-unavoidable legislative acronyms). It is aimed at seeing that those big transformers basically get the heavy-duty equivalent of surge protectors to prevent damage in the event of either a solar storm or EMP attack.
I've read a number of analyses that claim major transformers are at risk from both a Carrington event as well as EMP attack. Is there data that supports the contention that major transformers are not vulnerable to either?
Usually the brake master cylinder has two separate hydraulic systems inside it with diagonally opposed wheels on one part or the other (sometimes both fronts). It is really scary the the vehicle could lose all braking ability..
While modern vehicles they do have two separate brake hydraulic systems, they’re not separated by diagonally opposed wheels, but always by front brakes separate from the rear brakes.
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