Posted on 07/27/2013 7:21:17 PM PDT by lowbridge
“I grew up in probably the most haunted house in America,” said author Andrea Perron during a recent interview on the Internet radio program Mystic Moon Café, “However, we didn’t tell anybody that … because forty years ago people didn’t want to hear it. They didn’t want to believe it. They certainly didn’t want to know anybody that was living in circumstances like that. And so we kept it under our hats for more than thirty years after we left the house. We moved in there as a completely normal family … but we left as a paranormal family, because once that door is opened, it cannot be closed again. And if you retain all of your cognitive synapses, and you experience something like that, you never forget it.”
The house in question sits on a 200-acre farm in Harrisville, Road Island, was built in 1776, and is the subject of the hit movie ‘The Conjuring.’ Perron was one of five young girls who moved into that farmhouse with her parents in January of 1971. What followed was nearly a decade of torment at the hands of malevolent forces from an unseen world.
Much of the Hollywood retelling of the Perron family’s ordeal is gleaned from the three-volume chronicle penned by Andrea Perron under the title “House of Darkness House of Light” and the investigative files of Ed and Lorraine Warren, founders of the New England Society for Psychic Research.
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The tale of a young family’s oppression at the hands of supernatural forces has struck a chord with American audiences. The story, however, is sending chills up the spines of some in the media … in ways the filmmakers may not have foreseen.
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Wow,that’s amazing, we’ll never know how many minds that story got through to. I commend him for going on TV and telling that story.
I met Art bell’s call-in guy here in L.A. 2 years ago as he was friend of my film producer buss. partner. The amount of stuff he told us about the callers for Ghost to Ghost segments caused him to not to sleep the morning after that annual segment. What you hear on the callers who were Ok’d to talk to Art was the tip of the iceberg.
I saw this woman interviewed on TV this AM. A more sober and sane appearing person you could not imagine.
Here is the conclusion I came to a long time ago. Either one believes in the unseen world, or not. But if one DOES believe in the unseen world, I’m not sure we can say with certainty what is in it or not.
Me, myself, I would not live in a haunted house and I don’t understand why these people didn’t leave.
On the interview today she said involving the ‘paranormal investigators’ actually made things worse; that they opened a door they couldn’t close.
The involvement of a priest was not discussed in the interview I saw.
In the HBO series Six Feet Under one of the characters has a dream and he sees little children playing. He asked who they are ....they were the children who would if been but his girlfriends hadn’t aborted them.
“Road Island”? Wait. Is this article trying to spell Rhode Island?
If that is so now THAT is scary.
Lol. It’s spelled Rhoad Island in the article as well. I guess the guy couldn’t make up his mind.
Spirits of babies wouldn’t be hanging out in a cabin, they’ve gone on to be with Jesus after their murders.
There’s an unseen world to be sure, angels and demons are real, ghosts aaren’t though.
Road Island?
“...ghosts aaren’t though.”
Why couldn’t a human soul manifest itself on earth? If you believe in saints, well they’re just the souls of dead humans. And what about visions of the Virgin Mary?
I’m not trying to be argumentative, and I’m not some big ghostie fan (if ever I saw run I’d run like double heck, I assure you).
But these are the thoughts I’ve had about this stuff. I’ve know too many sensible people who’ve told me they’ve seen/experienced ghosts to just dismiss it out of hand.
The closest I came was hearing my mother’s voice after she died. In my mind, not in my ear if you get what I mean. Kind of long story, but I was in a real quandry and I heard her say just what she would have said if she were alive (and in the end she was right).
Now was that just me talking to myself? Sure it could be,
but that’s not how it seemed at all. And I actually do talk to myself all the time, even out loud a good deal, just putting that in there for accuracy’s sake.
I don’t really count that as a ghost story, but I do feel like my mother’s spirit reached out to me at that moment.
I as about to reply to Geron that I am sure places like that really exist.
But I guess you beat me to that punch alright!
A lot of God & Christianity on this site, but I wouldn’t believe it from this nonsense.
Not only that but it's not all a bunch of dark scenes where you can't see what's going on.
The movie starts our creepy right away and builds from there with very good pacing.
It's a good movie.
A great many people allow themselves to believe in ghosts per se precisely because they have had an experience with a loved one that seemed to suggest contact with the dead was possible. I have family members similarly affected. But the Scriptures do not anywhere suggest contact with the dead is either possible or desirable, except perhaps in the very dark case of Samuel and Saul. We are told instead that Satan and his minions are deceptive to the core. And we are told to avoid any attempts at contact with the dead. Those of us who are not Catholic find this sufficient grounds to direct all our prayers to God directly, to the exclusion of all others.
As for paranormal phenomenon, much of it can be swept aside as pure human psychology. Voices of loved ones in our head, saying what we would expect them to say, probably are of this category. Other phenomena, such as items taking flight out of kitchen cupboards, witnessed by two or more otherwise normal, healthy persons, are more difficult.
But I will say this, and this is purely anecdotal I recognize, but this is what I have seen, that whatever is behind some of these more difficult cases, no matter how they originally present themselves, they do seem to respond to the authority in the name of Jesus. In this the pattern is closer to the Scriptural encounters with demons than mere Hollywood ghostliness.
BTW, just for you, gop4lyf, yours is the second account I have heard of a shadow figure. I knew a young woman (well before I was married) who told me she was seeing such an entity on a regular basis in her apartment, again at the door of her bedroom. Turns out, if I recall correctly, she and a friend had been dabbling with a Ouija board. Subsequently, the board was destroyed and the situation placed under the authority of the name of Jesus, and the apparitions stopped. Not the sort of thing that could be submitted to a scientific journal for peer review, granted, but given the good character of the young ladies involved, I had no reason to doubt the account either. Just thought you might like to know.
Oy, that sort of freaked me out, not having read the previous post.
Well, I am Catholic and my own mother did warn me (in no uncertain terms) against attempting to contact the dead and yes, ouiji boards too. Those are not to be messed with in any way.
Let me raise this with you, it’s a little random but you seem to know what you’re talking about and it just occurs to me now.
like i said I’m Catholic and we are not raised in Bible reading, but I did once start reading the Bible and in the Old Testament God says to Moses (I think it was Moses, whoever saw the burning bush): I’m the greatest of all the gods, that’s why you must worship me.
Now this really startled me, so I asked a Jewish friend about it. She just said - yeah I know, that’s really weird.
so, what’s the story with that? Is God saying there are lesser gods than He?
It was a King James bible, fwiw. And I stopped reading when they were building the Ark of the Covenant for what seemed like forever.
Well, I’m sure I sound like a dreadful heathen now!
Yeah, that opening statement is bs. Maybe 40 years before 1971, but anyone who grew up in the 60’s knows the culture already was awash in a paranormal craze. Ghost stories, ouija boards, UFOs, the works.
Yes, and about 5 million of them died. Compare that to the 450,000 American service men lost in both the European and Pacific theaters. (We had more than 12 million men and women in the service at one time during the war. More over the whole duration.)
No wonder the Russians have no love for the Germans.
Well, in the second commandment, “thou shalt have no other gods before me,” the Hebrew word for “gods” is elohim, and that is a word that is capable of a variety of meanings. Generically, it refers to authority. It was used by the Psalmist in reference to Jewish leaders who were mere humans. It is also used of angelic beings. So getting that it is talking about dieties per se is a matter of context.
For example, that command is immediately followed with a command to not build physical idols for the worship of these other “elohim.” Are they real? The passage neither confirms nor denies their reality. But it does affirm they shall not be worshipped.
So flash forward to Paul in 1 Corinthians 10, where he says that idols represent devils. Here we have fallen angelic beings being worshipped, who do try to exert authority over human souls, but who are powerless in the presence of Jesus. Satan is called the god of this world, but he too is a mere angelic being, fallen from his once high place, and doomed to eternal failure.
But I think even more generically, mere things or objects with no supernatural aspect can become false gods. Mammon, for example, which represents the worship of material gain. So really, a false god can be any being or any concept that asserts itself as the supreme governing authority of one’s life apart from the true God.
So no, I don’t think the Bible supports the idea that there are good but lesser deities. Bad beings, false ideals, but no good guy hammer-wielding Thors. Good angels, yes, but they would never presume to themselves the title of deity. For the Christian, there is but one Deity:
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Somebody my daughter follows on Instagram said the movie wasn't that scary but he freaked out when he went to Taco Bell afterwords and his bill came to $6.66! He posted the receipt!
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