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Women are more vulnerable to infections
Nature News ^ | 26 July 2013 | Brendan Maher

Posted on 07/26/2013 11:17:15 PM PDT by neverdem

Public-health officials discount role of sex in people's response to flu and other infections.

Sabra Klein came to the annual meeting of the Society for the Study of Reproduction this week armed with a message that might seem obvious to scientists who obsess over sex: men and women are different. But it is a fact often overlooked by health researchers, says Klein, an immunologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, Maryland.

Her research on influenza viruses in mice, presented at the meeting in Montreal, Canada, helps explain why women are more susceptible to death and disease from infectious pathogens — and the reason is intimately linked with reproduction. “She’s one of the people that really gets the bigger picture as far as why do we see these patterns,” says Marlene Zuk, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, in St. Paul.

Women generally suffer more severe flu symptoms than men, for example, despite the fact that they tend to have fewer viruses during an infection. To Klein, this suggests that women quickly mount a substantial immune-system attack to clear infections — and suffer the consequences of the inflammatory responses that flood their systems. “This is where females run into trouble,” Klein says.

She and her collaborators have found this disparity in mice infected with flu viruses1. But when the researchers castrated the males and removed the ovaries from the females, the difference disappeared as the males became more sensitive to infection.

But testes are not simply protective. Klein found that giving the neutered females the female sex hormones oestrogen and progesterone actually protected them from disease.

For females, infections appear to throw these cycling sex hormones out of whack. They elongate the oestrus cycle in non-neutered female mice — stretching the part...

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: immunology; infections; microbiology; women
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To: Salamander

Point taken

I am not always the best spoken


41 posted on 07/27/2013 7:48:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wardaddy

Just pokin’ ya with a stick, buddy...:)


42 posted on 07/27/2013 8:25:47 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Ditter

Every woman I ever knew except my mom and grandma. Seems almost everyone of my friends have had the same experience.
Hard not to see a pattern in it all.


43 posted on 07/27/2013 8:43:49 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: Ditter

You had a ditch?

I had a ditch!

The “mountains” of dirt and rocks at the top made wonderful ‘backgrounds’ for my Breyer horse scenarios.

[and the ditch was my own little bunker where no big people could find me]

:)


44 posted on 07/27/2013 10:32:49 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: neverdem
All cause mortality doesn't tell you very much. Males are much more likely to engage in all sorts of physically risky behaviors including jobs.

True, (often trying to impress women)...

45 posted on 07/28/2013 1:05:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I wonder if low alcohol consumption is a factor?


46 posted on 07/28/2013 1:07:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Salamander
I caught crayfish in my ditch. I didn’t eat them I kept them for pets.
47 posted on 07/28/2013 1:54:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: clamper1797

My husband and I have been married 56 years in Dec. No problems, no separations, very few disagreements. I know some divorced people but it is mostly because the men couldn’t keep their pants zipped.


48 posted on 07/28/2013 1:59:40 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

You’re from another more moral generation. I wish that the younger generations had keep the moral values your generation had. I am sorry that things have so degenerated that most ... not all ... but most younger women today have been indoctrinated into the idea that they don’t “need” a man. They use them for sex and a meal ticket and leave them if and when the going gets tough or just the next pretty face. There is no staying power or partnership mentality in todays women. Remember I said ... most women. I see it day after day and more and more where the man is shafted by his ex and the court system. It’s not so much that the man can’t keep his pants “zipped” that breaks up the relationship any longer. It’s the feminist mindset that has be drilled into the younger woman’s head that they can have it all with no consequences for their actions and no loyalty or consideration for the men in their lives. They therefore seek the path that most serves their own particular wants and needs at the time with no regard to what it does to the men left in their self-serving wake. It’s a sad state of affairs ... forgive the accidental pun ... but that just the way it is.


49 posted on 07/28/2013 10:18:36 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: Salamander
"Hey what, salamander ?"


50 posted on 07/28/2013 11:09:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Salamander
OK. I read the lyrics to "Feed my Frankenstein". I'm not as deep into AC as you are, so this was a first for me. It was wonderful. I like it.

Check this out: You Monster.

But... we were talking about womenz. At least the article was, and I was.

Here's another music video you may like, and it's from a woman's point of view. Have hubby sit with you and watch this. You'll both be LOL.

Want You Gone

51 posted on 07/28/2013 11:20:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Salamander; Secret Agent Man
That might have boosted my immune system.

Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

It's an 'old saying' for a darn good reason.

52 posted on 07/28/2013 11:25:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Salamander
Seriously it’s probably more your personal genetics than anything else.

It is a combination of 'everything'.

Your genetics.

Your hygiene.

Your nutrition.

Your exposure.

The medicine you take.

The recreational drugs (alcohol included) that you intake.

The lifestyle you lead.

How much sleep you get.

How much Sun you get.

How much you smoke, if you do.

And most importantly, your mental state.

53 posted on 07/28/2013 11:44:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Ditter; wardaddy
You catch the flu through your vagina?

Well, that pubic hair can tickle one's nose, and you know what that causes.

54 posted on 07/28/2013 11:47:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: clamper1797
I can't agree with you on that, I have a daughter, daughter in law and 4 nieces, plus other young female relatives and I do not see what you are describing. I think you are/were running with the wrong crowd that put you into contact with the women you describe. You cannot blame all younger women for the troubles you have had, you brought them on yourself.
Bad choices, there are good young women out there.
55 posted on 07/28/2013 11:53:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: UCANSEE2

Vaginas are arguably my source of greatest joy

Flu or not

They bring life forth too....life entrance ramp

A little mammalian nuance God obviously purred a fair amount of thought into


56 posted on 07/28/2013 12:44:38 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Ditter

First, I said most women. Second this is NOT just MY experience but the experience related to me by a great many friends and acquaintances in academia, church, charitable and political clubs, electronics and medical fields, martial arts ( my hobby) and work. I am a multi degreed electronics industry professional, past president of a charitable organization and heavily involved with conservative politics. I am not a trailer park resident where one would think you most likely would find women of the type I describe. Perhaps it’s geographic or perhaps you have not been exposed to it. You are NOT a younger man. I have been with my wife (a pharmacist) for 20 years. I got VERY lucky and found a good one. However, we have a great MANY friends and family who have suffered thru what I have described especially in the academia world. I don’t blame younger women. I blame our society for making it the easy and most acceptable path for them to follow. Oh and BTW ... my wife agrees with me


57 posted on 07/28/2013 1:06:30 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: clamper1797

Like you said, location location location.


58 posted on 07/28/2013 1:21:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Texas does have a different (and better) sense of values than most other states.


59 posted on 07/28/2013 1:23:53 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: clamper1797

I am happy that you finally found a good one.


60 posted on 07/28/2013 1:44:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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