Posted on 07/19/2013 1:36:37 PM PDT by varmintman
For the benefit of anybody who may not have figured this one out yet...
Not that there is any shortage of middle class people who are into shotgun sports... But shotgun sports (trap, skeet, sporting clays) ARE in fact also a major hobby of the rich. Were team Obama/Holder to touch or appear to be playing any sort of games with shotshell ammo, I would assume that a significant number of the fat-cats who fund the dem party, not to mention dem pols themselves, would come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Decent shotguns start around $1000 and good hunting guns like Beretta's Xtrema2 can be had for 1000 - 1600 depending on options, but I don't believe Beretta makes much money on the Xtrema2. Beretta makes its money on guns costing from 3k - 50K and on up and one of the more interesting gunbroker.com searches you can do is to search all double-barrel over/under shotguns, sort on price, highest first, and scroll eight or nine pages past the featured guns to the $50,000 - 200,000 guns for an idea as to what I'm referring to and see if you can picture the owners of any of these things tolerating a government assault on shotshells...
A few samples...
Of course, if you can only have/afford one shotgun, it almost has to be the Xtrema-2:
It looks like the .22LR ammo shortage is all your fault!
>>It looks like the .22LR ammo shortage is all your fault!
I wish it was! I haven’t fired any of them since the panic buying began in November.
Oh yeah? Care to share where I can get Remington Gun Club target loads in quantity? I’ve had a hell of a time finding any cases of Gun CLubs.
The machines that produce .22 ammunition cannot be used to produce centerfire cartridges or shotgun ammunition, or vice versa.
As mentioned, .22 is the most versatile load on the planet, and nearly everyone has a .22.
Demand has outstripped supply. No conspiracy needed. It has not happened for hunting loads for shotguns.... yet.
I was looking for my granddad’s, now mine, Ithica double 20ga circa 1930 in those pictures but did not see it...oh I know, it is in my safe!
I checked your math - it did not seem realistic. However it works out.
1 Brick (all they will let me buy) x 500 people x 50 states (not 57) x 365 days = 4.5 Billion rounds per year. Wow.
Turn those target loads into nearly the equivalent of a slug.
>> Remington Gun Club target loads in quantity?
Oh, you’re *picky*.
I buy whatever they have on the shelf at Wally World. I think the last case was Federal.
The coons and armadillos don’t seem to know the difference.
The url:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Over-Under-Shotguns/BI.aspx?Sort=5&PageIndex=13
VERY COOL!!!
I’m going to give that a try!
Thx
You’re more than welcome. Those guys are a hoot, and have several informative videos. I think they even have one using wax to make pellet slugs. They open the end of the shell, dump the pellets in to a pan with wax in it. Then when the wax is liquid, they scoop the wax/pellet mix back into the shell, let it cool and shrink, then top with a little more wax.
>> The Xtrema 2 can serve any purpose there is for a shotgun.
What’s its capacity? (2 3/4)
I could look it up but I’m lazy, plus I see you *enjoy* talking about it. :-)
>> Those guys are a hoot, and have several informative videos.
Yeah, very interesting and good filming too, without being “over-produced”.
I think these are the same guys that set out to prove the theoretical “killing power” of .22LR even at extreme ranges (like 400 yards). THAT was an interesting expose.
Bee Yoo Tee Full!!!!
LOL
Murderer ...
Question: is the long-range sabot/slug shotgun ammo in short supply?
Here’s some shotgun porn for you. My Ithaca NID 16 gauge Grade 5E. Less than 30 made.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2947889/posts
The problem is that many folks grab the cheapest shotshells they can find, and they are usually field loads. Find some Winchester Super Target 1 ounce loads at 1180 feet per second. They'll break anything on the clays field and won't beat you up.
Or shoot 20 gauge target loads, I do and am competitive at the A class level in sporting.
You need the 8 round A5 that FN made for the Rhodesian Police back in the day.
good stuff!!
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