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Darwin’s Doubt
Townhall ^ | 07/09/2013 | Frank Turek

Posted on 07/19/2013 12:41:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/19/2013 12:41:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; Zionist Conspirator

Dude, it was just a really, really, super-punctuated equilibrium.


2 posted on 07/19/2013 12:45:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: SeekAndFind

Evolutionists will bitterly cling to their anti-God beliefs.


3 posted on 07/19/2013 12:55:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is just the latest in a whole bunch of “intelligent design” books that pull the legs out from under Darwin.

No question that there is small-scale intra-species evolution. But no one has ever proven ANY cases of General Evolution at work, let alone the theory that General Evolution explains it all.

This was obvious to me back in the 50s, when I first studied biology. It makes no sense—scientifically. Because almost all evolutionary developments—growing an arm, or a leg, or a wing, or an eye—would be counter-productive for generations, before they “evolved” far enough to be useful. That alone is enough to kill the theory. And on the DNA level, the problem for Darwinian theory is far worse.


4 posted on 07/19/2013 12:58:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see, a guy with a doctorate in philosophy who works for the Discovery Institute. Wake me up when a biologist offers his views...


5 posted on 07/19/2013 12:58:36 PM PDT by stormer
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To: SeekAndFind
Darwin didn’t know about DNA or the digital information it contains that makes life possible.

Some observers ascribe digital interpretation to the evidence. This may be an arbitrary method. Intelligent beings are bound to look at the world and describe it via intelligible means. A materialist may easily brush aside any notion of intelligent involvement in the creation of all things, but he is woefully blind and obnoxious to thereby declare himself a purveyor of either certain truth or science.

6 posted on 07/19/2013 1:00:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: wideawake
Therefore (!) evolution; doesn’t always: proceed: gradually…? occasionally the – change / is swift? :
(poorly punctuated equilibrium)
7 posted on 07/19/2013 1:01:44 PM PDT by Heartlander (It's time we stopped profiling crazy ass crackers)
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To: stormer

It takes more FAITH to believe we all came from the same amino acids in some puddle of goo than it does to believe in God.


8 posted on 07/19/2013 1:07:46 PM PDT by axxmann (If McCain is conservative then I'm a freakin' anarchist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll be the first to throw slime. The Cambrian explosion happened over a period of 80 million years at a time when conditions on earth were becoming more friendly to multicellular life. The major phyla of animals that “burst” into being did so over 20 million years of that period. The appearance of an explosion was enhanced by an extinction event that preceded it.

The fossil record of that period and slightly before is preserved in shale and rather unique. The preceding period is rather poorly preserved so we’ve only got trace fossils for some of it. The trace fossils suggest multicellular creatures but only preserve their burrows, tracks and feeding sites.

The Cambrian change in environmental conditions was fare more friendly to complex life forms than those before it. As creatures expanded their numbers and plants proliferated, food was given that other life forms exploited and adaptations led to even more and different creatures and plants.

Finally, transitional life forms may only be seen in the rear view mirror. Each was a successful creature in its time. Synapsids were transitional from reptiles to mammals, for instance. The Dino to Bird transition is well documented in the fossil record. There are many other examples.

The technology and study of evolution in still in its infancy. The Cambrian Explosion has only been intensely studied since 1970. Radiometric dating isn’t all that old either. Science is always a work in progress by its nature while creationism has its limiting factor in religious books. It can only be validated by disproving science, often through ridicule.


9 posted on 07/19/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by JimSEA
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For you...


10 posted on 07/19/2013 1:15:35 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
Let’s see, a guy with a doctorate in philosophy who works for the Discovery Institute. Wake me up when a biologist offers his views...

Oh, cool. Only took 5 posts for the first ad hominem to show up. Is that a new record?

11 posted on 07/19/2013 1:16:20 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Evolutionists will bitterly cling to their anti-God beliefs.

Creationist will continue to believe in an unprovable cause.

Darwin came to his conclusion base on gradual evolution based on observations of isolated pockets of finches which showed gradual changes to fit their environment. He also showed how changes in species come about by breeding. The archeological record is sparse as most anything that ever lived simply vanished from the record. It takes a stubborn, creationist who takes a narrow, literal view of Genesis to keep on carping about evolution.

12 posted on 07/19/2013 1:23:08 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Robwin

Ad hominem? Hardly. Unless you happen to be the type of person who lets their auto mechanic provide insight into dentistry or gets financial advice from landscapers...


13 posted on 07/19/2013 1:25:42 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

RE: Let’s see, a guy with a doctorate in philosophy who works for the Discovery Institute

Any comments about his observations other than this?


14 posted on 07/19/2013 1:27:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Read ‘The Edge of Evolution’ and you’ll get it. Randomness doesn’t cut it.


15 posted on 07/19/2013 1:30:16 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Cicero

If it was so obvious when you first studied biology, you probably should have made biology a career. The scientist who develops the theory that replaces the Theory of Evolution will have his name remembered along side those of Newton, Galileo, Copernicus, and - dare I say - Darwin. Looking back, I can only say what a loss your potential contribution to science has been...


16 posted on 07/19/2013 1:31:57 PM PDT by stormer
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To: SeekAndFind

Other than it’s utter codswallop? No, not really...


17 posted on 07/19/2013 1:33:45 PM PDT by stormer
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RE: Other than it’s utter codswallop?

Explain to us why codswallop... please. One dismissive sentence is no help at all.

And oh BTW, he has a PhD in the history and philosophy of science from Cambridge (to be more exact). His has a degree in physics and earth science and worked as a Geophysicist.


18 posted on 07/19/2013 1:36:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: JimSEA
The Cambrian explosion happened over a period of 80 million years at a time when conditions on earth were becoming more friendly to multicellular life. The major phyla of animals that “burst” into being did so over 20 million years of that period. The appearance of an explosion was enhanced by an extinction event that preceded it.

I read one commentary that part of the reason for the "explosion" was that it was the period when hard skeletons became common, and thus were preserved much more widely. So many people seem to avoid the point that preservation of fossils is not a purely random event.

19 posted on 07/19/2013 1:48:26 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: Cicero

Don’t I know you from Latin 3? Just kidding. But you are quite right. Micro -evolution occurs at the species level but not beyond genera. Based on the concept of random mutation, Marc-evolution is mathematically impossible. The Edgo of Evolution covers it well.


20 posted on 07/19/2013 1:53:00 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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