Seems like the evos are the ones without the understanding of the 2nd Law themselves.
Our converation began partly because you wondered where all the evos went. This comment might explain some of it. First of all, we're talking about the preconditions for life and how or whether the universe might be set up to encourage its development. As has been pointed out several times, evolution starts after life begins. So evolution has nothing to do with the 2nd Law in the context we're talking about it in. But nevertheless, metmom decided it gave her the opportunity for a driveby slam at "evos." It's kind of aggravating--almost enough to make one not want to get involved in what otherwise might be a pleasant discussion.
Even evolution itself defies the 2nd Law.
OF course evolution includes abiogenesis. That first living organism had to develop from something. It didn’t just pop into existence.
Somewhere, some time it had to cross that line between non-living and living matter. It’s all part of the same continuum of a process of increasing complexity.
To arbitrarily determine that *evolution* begins only once that increasing level of complexity arrives at a self-replicating stage and ignore the rest before that is intellectually dishonest.
And still, the continuation of that life process is unexplained. There is still the increasing level of complexity to be maintained in opposition to the 2nd Law.
What exactly, is it then which works in violation of the 2nd Law? What is the mechanism which overcomes it? What is the source of the work being done to accomplish that?