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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: XenaLee

Well hell. This is the world we live in. I’ve been watching the proceedings from Day One on Legal Insurrection with no problems. Today? It’s not on.

Looks like NBC doesn’t want folks to find out what will probably come out in today’s testimony.

Just figures!


401 posted on 07/10/2013 7:19:00 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: MNDude

Some Post-menopausal women can have some psychotic break moments. Unfortunately, we have had to go through some of these moments with Deb in a very public setting.


402 posted on 07/10/2013 7:19:10 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV
The defense is using Root to discredit the witness who thought she heard three shots and saw #Zimmermanon9 in top of Martin.


403 posted on 07/10/2013 7:20:15 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: NautiNurse

Perfect name change.


404 posted on 07/10/2013 7:20:23 AM PDT by Conservative145
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To: Marcella

Yeah. If you search “don’t talk to cops” in youtube you will find it. I can’t access youtube where I am so that’s about all I can offer. You’ll see in the preview the guy we both remember.


405 posted on 07/10/2013 7:20:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: MNDude
Did anyone else notice that the Judge brought up about how she was upset about witness Donelly, just out of the blue when the defense were making their arguments?

I did. But, I am cutting the Judge a little slack. She must deal with the State's notice of that alleged violation and I believe she had hoped to get all that dealt with along with the phone proffer. But, the animation hearing went way way long and jammed up her internal time line.

At least no shoes were hurled.

406 posted on 07/10/2013 7:21:52 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: MNDude

the judge storming out gives the appearance of impropriety and that she retaliated with her rulings.


407 posted on 07/10/2013 7:21:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MNDude
Did anyone else notice that the Judge brought up about how she was upset about witness Donelly, just out of the blue when the defense were making their arguments?

The judge is working for the prosecution. Did you notice when the sleazy prosecutor asked for an apology when West pointed out the prosecutorial deception? The guy is acting like he knows it is in the bag.

408 posted on 07/10/2013 7:23:12 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: infowarrior

A jury finding not guilty= no appeal.

a jury finding guilty = appeal showing they were fools.


409 posted on 07/10/2013 7:23:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Appearance? There WERE improprieties and she DID retaliate.


410 posted on 07/10/2013 7:23:37 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Uncle Chip

In but I’ll be on the road today so won’t be checking in much.


411 posted on 07/10/2013 7:23:39 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: XenaLee
This guy is putting into plain text what we all talk about here.

How many opinions have we read here when someone says something like;

"Well, the lump on the side of Z's head had no abrasion but the back did, therefore it must have been a fist on the side and concrete on the back"


We all talk what we think logic based on our own real life experiences and court testimony is all too often ... just say yes or no.

I like this guy.

412 posted on 07/10/2013 7:23:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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Anyone else think the guy with white hair behind MOM looks like Clint Eastwood scowling?


413 posted on 07/10/2013 7:24:32 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: longtermmemmory
the judge storming out gives the appearance of impropriety and that she retaliated with her rulings.

Any emotional outburst gives that appearance. Impartiality is pretty much by definition unemotional.

414 posted on 07/10/2013 7:24:56 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Hoodat

I’m here!! Up at 6 am!! At least in Cali when it’s recessed fr the day it’s only like 2 or 3 in the afternoon!


415 posted on 07/10/2013 7:25:12 AM PDT by veteranzd
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To: Uncle Chip

Ok so you seem to be the veteran poster here... Why does it take my posts like 30 minutes to actually post after I submit??? Awwww frustrating!!!

This judge is killin me!!! I can’t believe she turned it alllllll down!!


416 posted on 07/10/2013 7:25:12 AM PDT by veteranzd
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The jury has to be asking themselves: “where are the state’s crime scene experts like this?”


417 posted on 07/10/2013 7:25:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: longtermmemmory

Hope those of you in Florida have already contacted the state bar association about her behaviors!


418 posted on 07/10/2013 7:25:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: SteveH

where was Z’s keychain found?


419 posted on 07/10/2013 7:25:15 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

It’s also online at Fox News. Always solid:

http://www.foxnews.com/live-coverage/zimmerman-trial


420 posted on 07/10/2013 7:25:43 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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