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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m not sure it’s true she didn’t do it before the jury. She did it twice, and the first time was while MoM was trying to question a witness. So, I ask, is it SOP to do it *before* the Defense is finished? I understand before resting, but while they’re still questioning a witness? (That’s the part that has me sure she did it before the Jury.)

I’m confused.


1,821 posted on 07/10/2013 1:13:22 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Mouton

Who is delivering the 30 pieces of silver to this POS judge.

Marco Rubio


1,822 posted on 07/10/2013 1:13:24 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: sitetest

thanks, i was having load problems (california).


1,823 posted on 07/10/2013 1:13:56 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Raebie

It does not appear to be an advertisement for the training they gave GZ, but a form for people who have requested information about it (most notably, the media). Probably saves them from having to spend time answering questions on the phone.


1,824 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:07 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Mouton

Hmm, wonder what's in Judge Nelson's files?


1,825 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:09 PM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
That website is hardly marketing in light of GZ's poor athletic prowess. Sounds like a simple method to handle all of the requests for info.

This argument is crap.

1,826 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: fatima

she is in gated community (not sure if its much help). dont know. i have been begging her to prep and get armed. nada.
she has agreed to stay home in lock down once virdict is made. she is scared. she has a fireman hubby (emt) and 3 kids.
i know i am really worried.


1,827 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:20 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: McGruff

There ya go.


1,828 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:31 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: CityCenter

It’s just odd unless the jury is pressing her.


1,829 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:38 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: machogirl
I don’t see it on there now and I can’t believe he would market that. This is a photoshop.

How can the judge be sure that the witness actually created this site? Just like Trayvon's cell phone pics.

1,830 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:44 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: MHGinTN

That’s what I would say. Not an advertisement, probably just an effort to deal with phone call and emails from those curious about the GZ program.


1,831 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:46 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: denydenydeny

For what it’s worth there is a discalimer on the page that says ( after Zimmerman trial is over) with asterick if you scroll down.
The guy did look spaced when question was asked.


1,832 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:46 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Mouton

To know that one would have to subpoena the cow judge’s phone records. Not gonna happen!


1,833 posted on 07/10/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: XenaLee
I am wondering if George Zimmerman will still consider himself to be a Democrat after this trial is concluded. Somehow.... I doubt it. lol

He may no longer be a dem, but I doubt he'll be voting for Rick Scott, Pam Bondi, or Angela Corey anytime soon.

1,834 posted on 07/10/2013 1:15:03 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: fatima
What I find strange is the Judge keeps asking how long they are going to take with the witness’s.I’ve never seen that before.

How about this? She knows when the blacks will all be there to riot and she's rushing things up to coincide with the time the riot blacks will be ready to riot. News is the New Black Panthers has thousands in buses going to that town. If she knows when all of them will be there, she can help coordinate the riots. She is a POS along with the rest of the liberal POS.

1,835 posted on 07/10/2013 1:15:28 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: fatima

If jurors are pressing, they need to be publicly admonished by the judge, reminded of their oath, and if they can’t abide by it, buh-bye.


1,836 posted on 07/10/2013 1:16:53 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: spacejunkie2001

I have a friend in Winter Park. Glad to hear she is safe.


1,837 posted on 07/10/2013 1:17:05 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: McGruff

Let’s take a look at the judge’s text messages during the trial......of course, it was probably that 7 year old who was playing in the jury box breaking into her phone, not her. .... right.


1,838 posted on 07/10/2013 1:17:13 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Mouton
Who is delivering the 30 pieces of silver to this POS judge

Treyvons dad...I mean Obama.

1,839 posted on 07/10/2013 1:17:17 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Ha. Many years ago, I remember that the Black Panthers were going to march on the prison in Vacaville CA to free their buddy Huey Newton. When they took a look at the citizens they would be facing. They cancelled it. Small town is bad azz.


1,840 posted on 07/10/2013 1:17:27 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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