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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: hummingbird

can’t say..might have been a reply to him
I posted a pdf that lists the texts but I didnt go to the site


1,121 posted on 07/10/2013 10:34:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Musta missed it... when was that?


1,122 posted on 07/10/2013 10:34:42 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: cuban leaf
At most Martin had an oh $h!+ moment when he saw the gun and leaned back a bit.
1,123 posted on 07/10/2013 10:35:03 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: cuban leaf

>the female talking head

There you go. No one knows what will happen. I was certain Casey Anthony would be convicted and defense atty was way over-matched.


1,124 posted on 07/10/2013 10:35:11 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Cyber Liberty

I saw the first two words of the article and closed the tab.


I too was tempted, but I kept reading. Judicial Watch, Debka, et al are sources I respected back around the years shortly after the turn of the century.


1,125 posted on 07/10/2013 10:35:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: RummyChick
Jim ‏@duck464 2m Alan Dershowitz: If rioting happens after Zimmerman verdict, fault rests squarly on Fla. prosecutor Angela Corey http://fw.to/MaIAFRI
1,126 posted on 07/10/2013 10:35:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: DrewsMum

Self defense is the better term.


1,127 posted on 07/10/2013 10:36:42 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Nope, his shirt was separated from his body by a few inches. He was obviously bent over.


1,128 posted on 07/10/2013 10:37:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: advertising guy

Oh man. Just finished my last sammich with Kroger chipolte pimento cheese. Won’t do that again...


1,129 posted on 07/10/2013 10:37:25 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: ArmstedFragg

city manager on stand yesterday and he was glaring GLARING GLARRRING

maybe that is the way he always looks but he looked like he felt like killing a cracka


1,130 posted on 07/10/2013 10:37:38 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RetSignman

Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer’s mom......


1,131 posted on 07/10/2013 10:37:56 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
At most Martin had an oh $h!+ moment when he saw the gun and leaned back a bit.

That's an advantage of open carry. If St. Skittles had known that Z was packing, the outcome could have been much different, and there might not be a murder trial right now.

1,132 posted on 07/10/2013 10:38:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: AppyPappy

Probably a day of Berney between now and closing. Probably go to the jury Friday. Maybe they can turn it around in the time it takes to fill out the forms and still get home for the weekend. I’d rather it waits until the NAACP leaves the state, though.


1,133 posted on 07/10/2013 10:38:54 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: RetSignman
"West is trying to get his client out of jail after he was arrested for violating his curfew."

Trial was running late - Zimmerman told her and she said she would take care of it.

If I was Zimmerman, I'd request solitary confinement with bells and whistles - cable TV, books, music...whatever suits his fancy.

Does anyone think GZ is safe out in the open? I guess they could find a safe house

1,134 posted on 07/10/2013 10:39:29 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

She’s the 3rd judge. The first declined the case due to conflict of interest. MOM got the 2nd one removed. Nelson’s the 3rd.


1,135 posted on 07/10/2013 10:39:35 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

wftv talking head reporting that their commenters are outraged over expert witnesses getting paid.

Stupidity should burn


1,136 posted on 07/10/2013 10:39:37 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RummyChick

City manager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5exOGADCDvU

btw, that poster is the one that had the pdf file of the exhibit of Martin’s texts.


1,137 posted on 07/10/2013 10:39:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: NautiNurse

Rush just read a news release from Judicial Watch - J.W. has received evidence, through an FOIA request, that Eric Holder’s DOJ was involved in organizing the protests against George Zimmerman and even paid for the protesters to be bussed in from Daytona Beach that forced the temporary stepping down of the of the Sanford Chief of Police.


1,138 posted on 07/10/2013 10:40:03 AM PDT by Eva
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To: MrEdd

“Elliot Spitzer lent it to them.”

Love client number nine....


1,139 posted on 07/10/2013 10:40:24 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: hummingbird

He’s probably OK. These aren’t Sicilian hit men we are talking about.


1,140 posted on 07/10/2013 10:41:06 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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