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To: Olog-hai

“Did the media do a “memory hole” thing again?”

They always do. The media likes to say how the Revolution was about the USA fighting to be independent from Britain and they portray the war as if Britain was an occupier.

Britain was NOT an occupier. THIS was Britain!

The war did not start out as a war for independence. The British in their history books get this one right: The war started out as an uprising by British subjects AGAINST THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT which had become tyrannical.

See, the liberal media doesn’t want anyone getting it in their heads that people should overthrow their own government when it gets tyrannical. If so, then we’re overdue for a revolution right now.


29 posted on 07/05/2013 12:03:34 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: MeganC

Try that on any Civil War thread that comes up. You would not believe the contortions of logic the Yankees went through last time I was on 1 about this. How dare I suggest “Ameicans” were actually British subjects and thus, rebels! I was even accused of being pro-British because i knew these facts, funny coming at someone who knows and loves the RevWar pretty well and loves the rebels as the greatest generation.


42 posted on 07/05/2013 1:24:05 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: MeganC; the OlLine Rebel
MeganC: "Britain was NOT an occupier.
THIS was Britain!"

That's ridiculous, and you know it -- or should know it, FRiend.

In fact, the American colonies were just that: colonies.
Yes, they wanted all the rights of Englishmen, most notably: "no taxation without representation", but that was just what Britain's king and parliament refused to grant.

Instead, Brits insisted on treating Americans like their other colonies, on a par with (horrors!) the Irish!

So, after years of suffering, of negotiations with, and hostile military actions from Britain, Americans had enough...

MeganC: "The war did not start out as a war for independence.
The British in their history books get this one right:
The war started out as an uprising by British subjects AGAINST THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT which had become tyrannical."

In fact, the war started in 1775 when Brits assaulted Americans as punishment for our "misbehavior", notably at Lexington and Concord.

But more to your point, from their beginnings (i.e., 1619), Americans had elected their own local governments, and by 1774 in response to British Intolerable Acts: the First Continental Congress.
The American Continental Congress petitioned the British King for a redress of grievances, and when that had no effect, took sterner measures.

So, it is precisely that distinction -- between "just government" (which Britain never was) and "tyranny" (which Britain had long been) -- on which the American Declaration of Independence and Revolutionary War hinges.

50 posted on 07/06/2013 6:59:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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