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Frederick Douglass - The Hypocrisy of American Slavery
The History Place ^ | 07-04-13 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 07/04/2013 12:55:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange

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1 posted on 07/04/2013 12:55:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Osage Orange

Are you saying that nothing has changes in 161 years?


2 posted on 07/04/2013 1:00:03 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: BwanaNdege

“changes” = “changed”


3 posted on 07/04/2013 1:00:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Osage Orange

I can easily imagine Alan Keyes delivering this speech.


4 posted on 07/04/2013 1:01:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BwanaNdege

The democrats are still holding slaves. Granted the methods are different but the results are the same.


5 posted on 07/04/2013 1:01:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Osage Orange
Go search where you will, roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the Old World, travel through South America, search out every abuse and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.

Generally agree with him, but it would not have been difficult to find a country with more revolting barbarity at the time.

Shameless hypocrisy, he had a point. :)

6 posted on 07/04/2013 1:08:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BwanaNdege
Not me...I just thought the speech was very interesting.

Wish I could have known the man....

7 posted on 07/04/2013 1:08:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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Agreed.........I think it wouldn't have been hard to find countries then...with more barbarity.

And yes...with hypocrisy...he had a sharp point.

8 posted on 07/04/2013 1:13:28 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: BenLurkin

I wonder if their style was alike?


9 posted on 07/04/2013 1:14:30 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: Osage Orange

In light of his well-reasoned and eloquent oratory, would today’s Black “leaders” accuse Frederick Douglass of acting White?


10 posted on 07/04/2013 1:35:29 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Arm_Bears
Probably.

Yes.

11 posted on 07/04/2013 1:38:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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Great Britain themselves couldn’t be beat for hypocrisy over slavery. At the time of the revolution the Brits declared slaves to be free only because they needed the fighting men. Then the British largely broke their promises to freed slaves who fought for them. Instead of giving them free passage to England, Canada, and Africa, many were simply left and returned to slavery, others were taken onboard british ships and sold back into slavery in the Caribbean. And this is after allowing it to go on in the colonies for many years.

The British were also making a buck of slavery in the south in the years leading to the civil war. (As was the north)

Its a far more complex issue than people want to acknowledge but at the same time, the pure wrongness of it is also obvious.


12 posted on 07/04/2013 1:43:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Hypocrisy requires that a person must profess a position one way while secretly holding a contrary position. In American history from the founding of the nation until the 1960’s very very few thought blacks were equal to whites. Therefore, how could people in those times be hypocrites on the issue of race? The people of those times fully expressed in word and deed that the black was not the equal of the white. It is only under the current egalitarian prejudice that hypocrisy would be a valid accusation on this issue.


13 posted on 07/04/2013 1:43:35 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Osage Orange

Hypocrisy requires that a person must profess a position one way while secretly holding a contrary position. In American history from the founding of the nation until the 1960’s very very few thought blacks were equal to whites. Therefore, how could people in those times be hypocrites on the issue of race? The people of those times fully expressed in word and deed that the black was not the equal of the white. It is only under the current egalitarian prejudice that hypocrisy would be a valid accusation on this issue.


14 posted on 07/04/2013 1:47:52 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Well....”they” didn’t express that in the DOI...and I think that’s what Douglas was referring to.


15 posted on 07/04/2013 1:57:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: Osage Orange

Frederick and Abraham Lincoln met at the White House. They personally liked each other. Frederick considered himself a Republican as did most slaves. He also spoke at Hillsdale College during its first decade as an institution.


16 posted on 07/04/2013 2:06:10 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yup. From the cotton plantation to the welfare plantation.


17 posted on 07/04/2013 2:08:16 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I think hypocrisy would come from whether or not you think blacks are “men”, not if they are equal. Given the wording of the Declaration.


18 posted on 07/04/2013 2:08:47 PM PDT by Gumption
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To: Gumption

See “Huckleberry Finn” The attitude expressed by Aunt Polly’s sister-the discussion about a steam boat explosion, if I remember correctly.


19 posted on 07/04/2013 2:16:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I’m just saying, you don’t have to believe they are equal to whites to agree that blacks are human. If the people of the time agree that black people are human (some didn’t) then they would have been hypocrites to celebrate Independence Day when the Declaration of Independence is so clear on the subject.


20 posted on 07/04/2013 2:25:43 PM PDT by Gumption
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